270
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net to c/news@hexbear.net

Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

I legitimately don't understand what the US is doing. Surely supporting Isreal isn't worth this massive loss of prestige and political power among the Global South? It's not like Israel needs the support. The US could've just stuck to their guns on muh human rights and muh international law and muh status quo borders and things would've been fine. What's got the US so worried that they thought this was the best response?

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 77 points 1 year ago

One of the most important rules of leadership is "Don't give an order that will not be obeyed." Ever since Ukraine (arguably earlier, even) the US has been losing its position as global hegemon, and a multipolar world order is emerging. The Empire is in decline and is being run by the failsons of failsons, of failsons. They've spent the last year+ giving orders to the Global South and watching them be disobeyed. Being mostly technocratic functionaries in the Torment Nexus, they lack any leadership qualities or instincts to tell them that this is hurting their position. Instead, they've doubled down on wagging their fingers and screeching "Stop that! I order you to do as I say".

Like a petty lordling, they've now taken out the switch to teach their lessers who's in charge. The lesson, I believe, will not be what they intend. What the Global South will take away from this is that while the US still has raw military might, their word does not carry the authority it once did. They can come and force their way, but they can't be everywhere all at once. In fact, if NATO's issues with supplying ammunition for their proxy wars is any indication, they can't be in too many places, let alone everywhere. We have an expression here in Bulgaria: God is high up in Heaven and Caesar is far away.

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

first of all, excellent post

second of all, "We have an expression here in Bulgaria: God is high up in Heaven and Caesar is far away." this is so cool because in Chinese they have almost the exact same expression: 山高皇帝远 (shān gāo, huángdì yuǎn), meaning "the mountains are high and the emperor is far away." that's so fucking interesting, my word nerd brain is freaking out right now

Death to America

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

I suspect this is where it comes from. We used to be part of the Ottoman Empire and have taken in a lot of central Asian culture. For instance, Persian cuisine is very close to my culinary sensibilities. It’s very likely this saying made its way here from China.

Another piece of evidence to tickle your language nerd brain. The actual expression would translate as “God high, Caesar far” which is very reminiscent of Chinese four character idioms.

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

ah actually I've just looked it up on Wikipedia and the page for the Chinese saying has a "Russian equivalent" section so that must be how it got from China to Bulgaria. the-more-you-know

Death to America

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 year ago

Do you type out death to america every time or do you have it ready to be copy pasted lmao

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

I type it out every time like a sicko because I do 95% of my posting from my phone

Death to America

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 1 year ago

zoidberg saluting 1 keep on posting soldier

[-] proletarian_girlboss@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 1 year ago

A very honorable thing to be committed to.

[-] skeletorsass@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

It is also sometimes said 天高皇帝远。Even more like it.

[-] Venus@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

God is high up in Heaven and Caesar is far away.

Hell yeah, that's a good way to put it

[-] fever@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Fall of Israel sends a big message to the world: US couldn't save a country that it sworn to protect, a country that was armed with latest NATO armaments, a country that showered US politicians with money and lobbied heavily.

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

The same people who ran the propaganda for Ukraine saw how well it worked and applied the same to Israel. Simple as that. And since when has the opinion of Global South countries ever mattered in US foreign policy?

Ukraine i think really worked becuase Americans where looking for a feel good moment after coming out of COVID.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

INDIVIDUAL US politicians are more concerned with not getting canceled and losing political prestige among their rich zionist supporting peers than formulating a coherent foreign policy, which anyway requires thought and risk that they're not used to exerting on any given day

Better for you're career if you go on autopilot and go along with the old guard

[-] GorbinOutOverHere@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

maybe Israel has nukes and are an even madder dog than the U.S.

this post was submitted on 16 Oct 2023
270 points (100.0% liked)

news

23575 readers
740 users here now

Welcome to c/news! Please read the Hexbear Code of Conduct and remember... we're all comrades here.

Rules:

-- PLEASE KEEP POST TITLES INFORMATIVE --

-- Overly editorialized titles, particularly if they link to opinion pieces, may get your post removed. --

-- All posts must include a link to their source. Screenshots are fine IF you include the link in the post body. --

-- If you are citing a twitter post as news please include not just the twitter.com in your links but also nitter.net (or another Nitter instance). There is also a Firefox extension that can redirect Twitter links to a Nitter instance: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/libredirect/ or archive them as you would any other reactionary source using e.g. https://archive.today . Twitter screenshots still need to be sourced or they will be removed --

-- Mass tagging comm moderators across multiple posts like a broken markov chain bot will result in a comm ban--

-- Repeated consecutive posting of reactionary sources, fake news, misleading / outdated news, false alarms over ghoul deaths, and/or shitposts will result in a comm ban.--

-- Neglecting to use content warnings or NSFW when dealing with disturbing content will be removed until in compliance. Users who are consecutively reported due to failing to use content warnings or NSFW tags when commenting on or posting disturbing content will result in the user being banned. --

-- Using April 1st as an excuse to post fake headlines, like the resurrection of Kissinger while he is still fortunately dead, will result in the poster being thrown in the gamer gulag and be sentenced to play and beat trashy mobile games like 'Raid: Shadow Legends' in order to be rehabilitated back into general society. --

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS