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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] YoungSheldonAdelson@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

These Christians love their persecution complex. I say, lean into it. Let’s bring back show crucifixions and arenas where imported lions chase Jerry Falwell’s kids.

[-] YoungSheldonAdelson@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

When I wake up I’m going to write a big long post for hexbear about why evangelicals have made peace in Palestine an impossibility due to their insane eschatology. We’re gonna get into the real deep stuff. I’m talking Gog and Magog over here. You’re all gonna hate it as much as I did learning about it from my insane evangelical family during the Bush years.

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

What's wild is that it's all fucking blasphemy, and if their God and their Bible is real, they are going to hell for their actions. They think they have the power over Jesus to make him return by building a third temple.

[-] YoungSheldonAdelson@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

(Resisting caps lock here)

It’s in the fucking gospels! Matthew 24:36 from the mouth of Jesus himself!

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

These nut jobs think that they can trigger the apocalypse if they just get enough Jews packed into Holy Land like a can of sardines.

It’s so deeply antisemitic as well. A huge part of their Christian Zionist prophecy is the obliteration of the Jewish people in this final great judgement.

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Half the old testament is genocide and eugenics too. Abrahamic religions are all based on otherizing non-believers to justify treating them as non-human.

[-] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

I remember distinctly once receiving a bible as a gift, turning to a random page of the old testament, and reading several verses that were just about the (Canaanites? I can't remember) slaughtering all their neighbours and listing off the specific resources they looted from each place. Like, "and then the X people were trodden down, and from their land was taken marble, and then Y people were trodden down and from their land was taken copper". And when they defeat one group, god tells them to kill everybody and salt the land and poison the wells because they worshipped a different god, and the "protagonist group" don't want to but god orders them to do it anyway or else he'll smite them.

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

One time god told david to murder an entire town and raze everything to the ground and king david decided to not slaughter all the animals (he did slaughter all the women and children) and when god asked him why david said "I saved the animals because I was going to sacrifice them to you" and god was like "nope. You disobeyed me so now Jordan is gonna split away from israel."

[-] Zodiark@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

There was a book by Joseph Heller called God Knows, and one of the quotes in the book was David recounting Abraham and Isaac, and David says to the reader, paraphrasing, " no way would any of us have done as He asked of Abraham...God is not Jewish".

It's astounding looking back at history how some of each generation of Christians thinks theirs is the last. You look back to 1492 and Columbus thought his generation was the last because of his voyages, and even wrote a book about it. But, especially when I hear those stale Gog and Magog prophecies from my elderly coworkers, made as Cold War propaganda to describe geopolitical realities that no longer exist today...I don't know, it just all seems so damn conceited that these people think their time and locality is the end of all time and history.

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago
[-] YoungSheldonAdelson@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Not yet. I want to do this rant that's been building for a few weeks justice. I'm putting together sources.

It wasn't so long ago that people should have forgotten when George W. Bush asked the President of France to commit forces to Iraq under the reason that an ancient biblical evil would emerge in the Middle East all because Billy "The Spider" Graham told him it would. Is that really how stupid our world is? Why hundreds of thousands of people in the Middle East had to die?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2009/aug/10/religion-george-bush

It's difficult for me to put this all together with the horrifying reality, mass death, and genocide these wild religious fantasies of US leadership have been used as an excuse for in our present and just how pervasive this magical thinking is and how long planned the infiltration of this idea has been in US institutions.

The US Air Force Academy has been a breeding ground for these people who want the world to end in their lifetimes.

https://www.npr.org/2005/06/02/4676698/air-force-academy-embroiled-in-religious-controversy

Mike Pompeo wanted this war to happen because he believes that Jesus Christ is going to descend from heaven and chastise the Jewish people for their non-belief in him. When all of those evangelical leaders laid hands on Donald Trump in the Oval Office it was this very genocide that they were endorsing and had in their minds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0_mCivoTSs

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Good luck. I have some hexbear originals that I want to write and post

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Being persecuted is a sign of righteousness to Christians, so in the absence of any real persecution they have to invent some.

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