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Who was worse, George W. Bush or Donald Trump?
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Not an American but Trump was far more embarrassing to your international reputation than Bush. They're both 2 of the worst presidents you've ever had but Trump is a whole different level of shitty. He's like fascist shitty, whereas Bush was neo-con shitty.
Also not American. People who were anti-bush had at least some kind of greater belief about capitalism, politics, etc. Literally everyone knew trump was a buffoon.
As an American, Bush is so much less bad than Trump to me that I find this question confusing. It's so obvious that Trump is the worst thing that's ever happened to the US. He literally attempted to overthrow an election to stay in power.
No other president has come close to that. It's an absolute joke that Bush is considered in the same breadth.
Another Trump term could very likely be the last presidential election we have or it could result in another attempted coup. How fucking scary is that?
Bush actually stole the election lol
There's at least a veneer of legitimacy over the Florida supreme court deciding to award the state's votes to Bush in 2000. Does it suck and should it be fixed? Yes. Was it illegal and dangerous to democracy? No, or at least not as bad as Jan 6 and the other crimes Trump and friends committed to try to steal the 2020 election.
Found another liberal who thinks decorum is the most important part of the political system. The veneer of legitimacy is MUCH worse then the obvious flailing of someone who lost.
Yeah but he didn't incite an insurrection like Trump did.
Yes, yes he did. Are you trying to ignore Iraq and Afganistan on purpose?
Found the liberal. Sorry the worst thing to have ever happened to you was trump being mean on the internet. I'm sure Millions of Iraqis understand your pain.
Corporate would like you to find the difference between these two pictures.
Look they both don't fall far from the shit tree, but the political philosophy nerd in me still does think there's some key points of difference. And these points of difference are useful in recognising and responding to fascist ideology because it's inherently parasitic and spreads by latching itself onto other ideas. That's why you can have things like eco-fascism and atheist fascism, which don't traditionally align with conservatism. Umberto Eco actually outlines the specifics of fascism and how it's a uniquely shitty ideology that can work it's way into any dark corner of complex human societies.
That’s ridiculous. Bush killed an unfathomable amount of people. Trump was awful but nowhere near the level Bush was