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The problem being, the other companies that could provide an alternative to their products are about as harmful (Nestlé, Mondelez, Johnson and Johnson, etcetera). At this point, we should start learning how to grow our own food and make our own soap
I have an idea. We steal lard from plastic surgeons, turn it into soap, and then sell it back to the rich bastards.
I like where this is going..
His name was Robert Paulson
“Only in death will we have our own names since only in death are we no longer part of the effort. In death we become heroes.”
His name is Robert Paulson
These are pretty common products. There are tons of ethical alternatives, in fact personal care items are among the easiest and cheapest products to find ethical alternatives for and a good starting point if you want to develop more ethical consumption habits. You don't need to make your own soap in order to avoid sponsoring genocide.
Hook me up with some knowledge please, cause fuck those fucking fuckers.
Where do you live?
I'm in the states, east coast of that has an impact
We've started a community at https://kbin.social/m/SponsorsOfRussianInvasion to track all sponsors of Russian invasion of Ukraine. Come over and help us name & shame the SoRI lot.
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I like Rocky mountain soap co for bars of soap. Their aloe soap fixed my dry hands after one use when I was overwashing them early on in the pandemic.
I use a lush shampoo bar, though tbh I don't know if the company's ownership is any better. I'm assuming they are but don't have anything other than their own material to back that up.
We've started a community at https://kbin.social/m/SponsorsOfRussianInvasion to track all sponsors of Russian invasion of Ukraine. Come over and help us name & shame the SoRI lot.
Feel free to spread the word.
...unless you don't live in the States, where access to alternative brands is much more limited in scope.
Frankly that's an excuse, and a lazy one at that. Ethical products are widely available outside of the US, and I say this as a digital nomad who has lived on three continents and lived in the US for less than a year in total. If the inconvenience is unbearable for you then that's your prerogative, but don't try to justify it by saying things that simply aren't true and thereby discouraging others.
Can you provide some links so we have a starting point? Simply googling Ethical Shampoo is going to bring about a disheartening and probably half fake onslaught of results that would be nearly impossible to sort through.
Not everyone can afford such alternatives. It isn't simply a matter of inconvenience, it's a matter of access and expense.
also a crap excuse… P&G don’t make cheap products; they make brand name products… plenty of home brand stuff is cheap, and doesn’t actively support russias genocide
there are other discussions to be had about environmental impact, pay gap, etc but that’s not what we’re discussing
I'm referring to ones that are made by non-controversial companies. It's difficult to find products that aren't made by the same companies just under a different name. Finding ethical alternatives isn't as simple as "don't buy P&G", and isn't cheap either
there are (at least) 2 things that boycotts are meant to do:
in the first point, switching to a different brand produced by the same company clearly does nothing unless the at product has a lower margin (which isn’t even unlikely either: plenty of brands do the “budget”, “midrange”, “luxury” brand concept and budget is where they make their least overhead)
on the second however, that’s where you can maybe make a difference… if a company starts to see market share dip in their big name products, that’s problematic for them even if people are switching to other products in their line that are less well known, because it shows that people have more negative attitudes to their brands
I can see the problem, Scope is made by Proctor and Gamble...
I’ll start: avoid Hellman’s easily by making your own mayo. If the eggs squick you out, or you just want bonus points, I use this vegan garlic mayo recipe. It keeps for weeks and I don’t miss mayo at all. This requires a blender - any kind is fine.
Soap: someone near you makes bars of this that are better quality and sells them for roughly $5, I guarantee it. If not, making it is pretty straightforward as long as you follow instructions carefully and use established recipes. If you want to go custom, you can also use a lye calculator. This one requires an immersion blender.
Breyer’s/ice cream in general: Get yourself some xanthan gum for regular dairy, and add soy lecithin to your list if you want to do vegan ice creams. The xanthan gum inhibits ice crystals for a smooth and creamy texture, and helps with scoopability. Soy lecithin helps emulsify oil and water, so you can use it to bring up the fat content of soy or oat bases to be closer to a heavy cream. Requires a blender.
Gillette: get a safety razor. Mine’s a vintage lady Gillette I got off eBay. You will save so much money on blades it’s not even funny.
Lipton: your local grocery store might have loose leaf tea in the bulk section. If so, try that first. If not, check out Arbor Teas instead. Small business, fair trade, high quality stuff, and the packaging is completely compostable, making it an awesome zero waste choice.
Not saying you are wrong in your recommendations, but I also use safety razors and almost all razor blades are produced by manufacturers bought by P&G any way :(
Ughhhh really? That’s a bummer. :(
Well, at least it’s less money. Thank you for the heads up :) Honestly, I’d give up shaving if I could stand it, but I’ve tried and can’t stand the physical feeling of hairy legs.
At this rate you'll have to go find a local blacksmith. Or maybe become your own local blacksmith, if you can afford the tools.
This list is a great alternative to funding villains.
We've started a community at https://kbin.social/m/SponsorsOfRussianInvasion to track all sponsors of Russian invasion of Ukraine. Could you pop over and share your list and knowledge?
I’ve actually got quite a bit of these sort of recommendations that I think I’m going to compile into something easier to navigate based on what you don’t want to support - but feel free to share a link to this comment in the meantime!
Thanks.
Thread added here! I found a site similar enough to what I was thinking of to go ahead and share. https://kbin.social/m/SponsorsOfRussianInvasion/t/192018/What-alternatives-and-strategies-do-you-personally-use-to-live
Thanks
Mondelez is also a sponsor of Russia's war on Ukraine.
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Homemade soap is bad for my cast iron pans. Capitalism is really popping off for me
Farmers markets usually have good stuff, my only issue with that is the price is like double… might be an incentive to be a bit more frugal too I guess, but it‘s hard to save much on food or hygiene products for me.
Tyler Durden? Is that you?!