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[-] jabrd@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago

Strong disagree. There are no unique builds in starfield because there are such clearly necessary perks to unlock and the never ending, NG+ focus of the game pushes you towards unlocking everything anyway. Similarly no story decisions lock you out of other options later. There’s really no role you can play in starfield except “protagonist.” Not so much a defense of Skyrim, just talking well deserved shit about starfield

[-] Cowbee@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

The same thing happens in Skyrim, lol. As compared with Skyrim, Starfield is better.

[-] jabrd@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago

I just think starfields an even shallower experience. Like think of the ability to specialize towards a weapon type. In starfield melee weapons can't be customized and don't get tiers like the other weapon types so they become unusable after a certain amount of play time. There are fewer energy weapons in starfield than in fallout 4, it feels sparse playing with the same 6 guns for the entire game. The EM weapons aren't integrated into any sort of meaningful gameplay loop for incapacitating enemies instead of killing them. You have to just shoot their comatose bodies or let your companions do it for you. Ultimately everyone gets funneled towards using ballistic weapons just by nature of how underdeveloped the other options are. At least in skyrim playing as a mage vs a warrior felt like two distinct and separately rewarding play styles. Again I'm not trying to do too much skyrim defending, starfield is just a bad video game

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

At least in skyrim playing as a mage vs a warrior felt like two distinct and separately rewarding play styles. Again I'm not trying to do too much skyrim defending, starfield is just a bad video game

lol weird to spell "stealth archer" two different ways. i tried to watch a video of the starfield speedrun and fell asleep, maybe modders can rescue it but since it's not even open-world anymore idk how they would. skyrim was barely an rpg and the beth games after it aren't doing any of the things i want from the genre at all.

[-] Darth_Reagan@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

Skyrim is singleplayer. There is no meta forcing you to play stealth archer. Warrior, Mage and dagger thief are all perfectly viable builds.

[-] Moss@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

But stealth archer is by far the best designed class. Bows feel weighty, arrows have drop distance and stealth is consistently fun. Melee weapons are basically weightless and playing a warrior just consists of spamming the attack button, pausing to spam healing potions, and then spamming the attack button again. Destruction mages play very similarly, and the other ones like illusion and conjuration basically consist of getting NPCs to play the game for you.

Stealth archer manages to be the best one even though the game doesn't even differentiate from an arrow landing in a foot and a headshot, because the other options are so underdeveloped.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

all roads lead to stealth archery

[-] Cowbee@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Sure, Starfield is a step down in quite a few ways. Still a better RPG.

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