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[-] interceder270@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago

Lol, that's funny. When you say 'shithole' when buying a house, most people will think you're talking about the quality of the property because that's an issue that affects everybody.

If you have something specifically relevant to you that causes you not to like a place, then understand that your judgement is not an absolute truth. Most people will not consider Indian to be a shithole because of its legislation, but you're an exception.

Instead of saying a place like Indiana is a shithole, you should say it's just not good enough for you. That takes the faux-objectivity away from your argument and allows us to discuss on relative terms.

See how it all goes back to entitlement? Trying to convince people you 'need' something because that way they're the bad guy if they try to take it away from you. In this case, as with most, it's money. You need that money, and anyone who gets in the way is a bad person for taking away your needs.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Instead of saying a place like Indiana is a shithole, you should say it’s just not good enough for you.

No. Right-wing dominant places which are enemies to queer people and women are shitholes. In their entirety. Indiana is not good enough for anyone who is non-Christian, queer, a woman or an ally to them.

But sure, you want to be a Trump voter and its paradise. I'd say that makes it a shithole.

Calling a fascist state full of idiot Republican bigots a shithole isn't entitlement, it's accuracy.

[-] interceder270@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm glad you at least came clean about your sentiments on the matter.

Now we can see you don't speak for everyone, only people with your specific issue.

When I think 'shithole' I imagine places like favelas in Brazil or the black part of Johannesburg. Hopefully you can see how Indiana is significantly different than those places, where unfortunately many people are forced to live while we pass a bunch of money around at the top.

I'm sure you also think Florida is a shithole, and lots of tribalists will agree with you. I, personally, do not. Most places in Florida are great to live. Some places in California are awful to live. I don't think the politics of any state are horrendous enough to call them 'shitholes.' I'm looking at things from a global perspective, though. Because we live in a global society and it's not fair that people in Indiana get more before those in Somalia.

But that's just me.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

By "tribalists," you mean people who are against fascism and bigotry and oppression. Yes. I guess we know where you stand on that with your "global perspective."

[-] interceder270@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago

You're showing your reddit-brain again.

Funnily enough, further proving my point about 'tribalists.' We're either with you or against you, lol. There is no independence.

Glad we could have this talk.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Ah, being anti-fascist is being "Reddit-brained." Gotcha.

Yes. When it comes to fascism, you are either anti-fascist or you support fascism. There's no middle ground. And you have made it clear you are not anti-fascist.

[-] interceder270@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ah, being anti-fascist is being “Reddit-brained.” Gotcha.

No, saying "you really mean this" when saying something that is not what they really mean is being reddit-brained.

Hilarious how you just did it twice in a row, lol. And continued to support my point about tribalists.

Man, I'm glad I'm not with you. There is no independence in your world.

That said, I am anti-fascist. Florida is not a fascist state, though. Tribalists will disagree with me on that, but that's what makes them tribalists. Just like how they think it's a 'shithole.'

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That said, I am anti-fascist. Florida is not a fascist state, though.

Always interesting to see someone lie and then show that they're lying immediately afterward.

[-] interceder270@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah, I knew you'd call that out.

That's how predictable your tribal behavior is.

This is funny, though. With each reply we gain more insight into how warped your worldview is due to your loyalty to your tribe.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I know you won't read this, but I'll just leave it here for everyone else so they can see why your claim of being an anti-fascist is a lie.

https://www.rawstory.com/amp/thom-hartmann-mussolini-2659366661

[-] interceder270@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah, just link to an article instead of making your own arguments.

That way you don't have to stick your neck out and everyone can just assume your positions. If they don't make up your arguments for you, then they're the problem.

Great reddit-tactic.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I knew you wouldn't read it. Fascist.

[-] interceder270@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I know I did.

You clearly agree with all of this since it isn't fascism. Because you are so "anti-fascist":

Arresting black men for voting, terrifying them and ruining their lives while making sure they all get paraded in chains before the cameras.

Threatening public school teachers with prison for simply teaching history.

Lying about medical science regarding vaccines to suck up to the Trump base, resulting in fewer Floridians being protected from a disease that is killing literally hundreds of Americans every day.

Using rhetoric that feeds bigotry and hate against gay, lesbian, and trans people.

Intimidating the college board so they strip the Black Lives Matter movement out of their advanced placement African-American Studies curriculum.

Lying to asylum-seekers to get them on a plane to Martha’s Vineyard as a stunt to elevate his own political fortunes.

And, of course, thinking all of that makes Florida a real shithole for anyone who doesn't support fascism is "tribalism" is also what makes you a fascist.

I know, its "Reddit-brained" to quote an article to tell you why Florida is a fascist state.

[-] interceder270@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

Sorry bro, I'm not gonna sit here and debate all of your talking points. You're delusional enough to believe that Florida is fascist, and that's all I need to know to see you're not worth arguing with.

It's impossible for you to listen to reason because you are too far down your tribalistic rabbit hole. You can't see how much you're being manipulated, and there are plenty of other fools following your same path.

Go ahead, believe whatever you want. You were going to anyways, and rational people recognize that your claims are not rooted in reality.

You may have the last reply. I can tell you're dying for it. Goodbye.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That's an interesting way to say that you don't have a problem with oppressing minorities.

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