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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

It's always the patriarchal conquerors like the Ancient Romans or the Ancient Greeks that they idolize and never the people like, say, the Picts or the Celts or the Gaul that rebelled against the brutal Roman empire. It's never the Scottish or the Irish heroes who fought back against the British Empire that followed in Rome's footsteps. None of them probably even know who Boudica is.

Ironically, a lot of the stuff you could call "white culture" was burnt at the stake, banned, brutalized, and literally demonized by the Empires that chuds think are so civilized. A lot of pagan culture was lost to time, or warped by Roman 'scholars' for propaganda purposes. If they truly cared about their 'culture', then "Muh Christian trad wife' would be seen as killing the identity of pagan women, rather than an aspiration.

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[-] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

There has never been a matriarchal society

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

People tend to confuse matrilineal indigenous societies as being matriarchal.

[-] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Very true, look at this thread

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Nah, there has been. If you'd like me to cite something, I'm reading Graeber's Dawn of Everything rn and he specifically talks about matriarchal societies in indigenous North America

[-] M68040@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was gonna say, "Never" seems like a bit of a tall bet in anthropological terms. There's been a lot of civilizations and complex societal structures have been around for millenia, so i'm sure that any idea the average person could think of has been tried somewhere at some time. Maybe not at significant scale and maybe not for long, granted.

[-] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did some research, I'll need to do some deeper digging but it so far looks like it's not a patriarchy, which is not the same as being a matriarchy

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

The book is super dense with info so I'll dig too next time I keep reading

[-] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Thanks. It's definitely an interesting topic, and whatever the make up of autochthonous European society, the steppe peoples brought in far more severe patriarchy.

[-] somename@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Is this sarcasm or are you just unironically chud posting?

[-] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

I'm stating the current view of anthropology and archeology as a whole instead of one book. Things have existed which are not patriarchy, matriarch is not one of them.

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