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[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nord Stream didn't help at all, though. All it did was let them keep kicking the can further. Again, if you're reliant on a resource from somewhere else, that's not energy sovereignty.

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Europe never had energy sovereignty, that’s the point I was making. Without cheap Russian gas, Europe would have been much poorer than it is after the 2009 crash, unless they’re also willing to depress wages. How are they going to invest in green technology if they never had the money in the first place?

Depending on how you look at it, the natural gas is still a far more acceptable molecule for transition to green energy, than coal that Germany is rolling out to spite the Russians these day.

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah welcome to Europe. With Nordstream they were dependent on two parties, without it they are wholly dependent on one. How do you think that impacts their bargaining power with the one?

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