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[-] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

You touch on a point inadvertently about what makes immigration so beneficial is that the workers can start working as soon as they arrive. Or at least, as soon as their qualifications are transferred over (for example nursing). Which is far quicker than having someone born in Canada and waiting 20 odd years til they enter the workforce.

So, theoretically, the new people can help build homes, hospitals, schools, etc for the other people who need it, and then the new new people will build for the new people, and etc. There just doesn't seem to be much planning going into it besides bring people in to make numbers go up. Also, major infrastructure works take years, so they'll never be able to keep up.

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I mean, if you've ever looked into the process, I'd actually argue there's too much planning going on, and we need to start over. It's insane that we're still the easiest destination apparently, that shit's Kafkaesque.

[-] villasv@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

There just doesn’t seem to be much planning going into it besides bring people in to make numbers go up.

Why does it seem to be that way? Aren't most immigration programs based on labor market assessments?

[-] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Here is the 2020 Annual Report to Parliament on Immigration which talks about why immigration is important, but doesn't mention plans on how to support the people coming here. It focuses on the financial benefits (a large section of it being international students, which only 1.4% of the "827,586 international students [that] held valid study permits in Canada" were given permanent residence.) and demographics of immigrants.

[-] villasv@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

But which part of that document gives the impression that the idea is to bring people in "to make numbers go up" without much planning? The fact that it doesn't talk about housing? I think it's kind of expected to carve out given the scope of the report.

[-] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Copied from my comment above:

"to run some numbers, BC currently has 5,000,879 out of Canada's 36,991,981 or 13.5% of the population. If that proportion continues over the next decade, BC will see an approximate increase of 600,750 out of 4,450,000 people based off of this plan (assuming the grown maintains its linear growth). If you divide 600,750 people by 293,000 new units you get 2.05 people per unit, therefore if the people immigrating are bringing their family and living more than 2 people per unit you will see a net surplus of housing, but single people will see a net loss or break even of housing.

All of this is to say, it appears they have planned to create enough housing for the people projected to come here, but not a substantial amount to increase the overall supply. It would appear it will maintain the status quo."

If they build all the housing they plan to, they will roughly keep pace with immigration. Therefore nothing will change for the better, or our current housing crisis will remain constant.

That is assuming they follow through with the promise to build that much.

[-] villasv@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

A reasonable guesstimate. I don't see how that answers my question, though.

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