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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 45 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

When are you going to grow up and join the real world? Repeating this shit over and over again doesn't make it any less realistic, bordering on complete and total fantasy.

What you are actually saying when you say this is that you are happy to see tens of thousands of people die for dumbass lines on a map, because you care about dumbass lines on a map and the states more than human beings. Your priorities lie in nationalism, not people's lives. I'd go so far as to call it ultra-nationalism given the level of delusion you people are now stooping to in order to throw yet more bodies into the grinder.

This all could have ended before Boris put a stop to negotiations. And it would have ended with exactly the same outcome that we're going to get now, except with hundreds of thousands fewer deaths that you lot were happy to see.

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

And it would have ended with exactly the same outcome that we're going to get now

Not really. Ukraine would have been able to retain the Donbas and they wouldn’t be living in a wrecked nation with a trillion dollars in destroyed infrastructure. Russia was basically only asking they stop attacking the Donbas, recognize their rights, and Russia would retain Crimea.

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