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Can we not push more anti science rhetoric please
This is like the second or third post I have seen in the past week talking about “belief” in science. Science isn’t about belief, it’s about understanding. Maybe this post should be, “What facts are you questioning because you don’t understand the underlying data?”
Seriously. Science just is. I don’t care if you believe it or not. It still is what it is.
What it is, is an extremely powerful tool for reducing uncertainty about the world. Not eliminate, reduce. What it is not is a tool for "proving" "facts". Claiming a "proven fact" is belief, not empirical science. An extremely consistent and useful theory, of course! But not a proven fact.
Science just is the way gender just is. It's a metaphysic.
Could you link to the studies saying this?
Do you not know what a metaphysic is? A metaphysic is something that affects the world without actually existing. Information is metaphysics. Law is metaphysics. Gender is definitely metaphysics. Science is too.
Y'all downvoting me because you're taking offense to a word you can't bother looking up the definition of. Peak stupidity and tribalism right here. You make up your identity(which is also a metaphysic) based on imagery and social appeal and sling shit just like chimps.
Could it be that people are downvoting you because you're using words wrong while acting like you are educated on the matter? 😉
You don't have to take my word for it. Try Google define: metaphysics.
I'm aware of what metaphysics is. I'm also aware that it's based in philosophy, not science, as you stated.
Everything is based in philosophy. Science is based in philosophy. Click the first blue link in every Wikipedia page that isn't the pronunciation and you'll go straight to philosophy after a few pages!
I fuckin love philosophy!
That might have been a better title but it would get less responses and also the title never mentions "belief in science" as you put it, the explicit title is something Scientific that you DON'T believe in.
A lot of people not wanting to disassociate the term believe from relgion here. I believe the sun will rise tomorrow. I also believe the sun doesn't rise. Neither have to do with a religious belief system for me.
Chill science should be questioned otherwise it's not science
Science should be questioned by people who understand the science, not by random people who don't understand the research. Which a lot of people who know nothing about the science or the maths/data or whatever try to question it
Right, all the people talking shit about dark matter in this thread surely all have 4 PhDs up their ass
No investigation, no right to speak
This is a really stupid take, how do you think new scientists are made if not reaching for enlightenment to answer their own questions?
Science is about being wrong and learning.
Yes, and people that challenge the science who then become scientists actually research/experiment thenselves. They don't go and claim science is false until they have actual reason/evidence to believe so. One can question science all they want when they do their own science on the matter and it isn't handily disproved beyond reasonable doubt by existing evidence.
Most science deniers do not do that. Making anti-science claims without obtaining solid, consistent evidence is not science.
People are free to express what they think about science. There's no law saying otherwise. Why are you guys so upset?
"There's no law against it" is a laughably stupid reason to do something. They're free to do it but everyone else is free to acknowledge that their uneducated/misinformed skepticism is harmful to society and that their opinions are meaningless to those who aren't dumb. Leave the contemporary science denial to those who actually somewhat know what they're talking about.
The person you're replying to believes climate change to be a lie, so I think you're probably wasting your time.
This is a question on AskLemmy. It won't change anything in the world. Why do you care? You guys should touch grass
What are you on about?
Let's touch grass together to measure how much photosynthesis grass can do? Please, it will be fun. But I'm open to another scientific experiment if you have anything in mind
nooo you gotta have faith in the science!! trust the science!!
Sorry I'm an heretic I guess so I must die burning (please no)
The top comment is a proper debate about leading scientific theories, and the most downvoted comment is somebody who thinks the moon landing is faked, both of which have healthy and honest debate with goodwill from both sides.
This entire post is about Skepticism, which is an integral part of Science. To shut down the conversation would be Anti-Science.