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Well that’s unescessary
Way too many people.
We need a new plague.
We just had one!
Or WW3. One of the obstacles to universal basic income is too many people.
Won't be any UBI in a nuclear hell scape unless it means Unusable Biosphere Integrity.
We get Star Trek universe if we have one of those but not sure any of us would get to enjoy that.
Careful, I got called a nazi on here for saying that lol
Yeah. There was a guy calling everyone a eugenicist for simply saying we need less people to help bring down climate change.
He said that was just a ploy.
I can’t wait to not exist, for many reasons. But people like that is at the top of my list.
If you want the population to decline, then there has to be some kind of filter for who gets to live or reproduce. Even if it's 100% random with no racial/religious/whatever bias involved, you must still remove a significant chunk of people, or at least cause them not to reproduce. That's the best case scenario. Even trying it is almost asking for someone to co-opt it for their fascist goals; it almost certainly won't be 100% random, and bias towards specific populations will occur. It almost certainly will devolve into eugenics.
The Earth can support this many people. We know how. What it can't do is support it with utility monster billionaires around.
>There was a guy calling everyone a eugenicist for simply saying we need less people to help bring down climate change.
yea. that's ecofascist rhetoric. of course they told you what you're doing.
It’s fascist only if people don’t choose on their own, making the choice, entirely their free choice.
you don't seem to understand that you're just saying the same thing ecofascists say, then rationalizing it by saying "it's only propaganda. i'm not forcing anyone to do anything"
...in one spot, mostly big cities.
the earth is still mostly vast, and needs to spread all the people to a more habitable area.
All the most habitable spots are already taken. The only spots left have major disadvantages.
You can't just 'spread out' all the people. It doesn't work that way. Not everyone wants to live on a cliffside road in Colorado, Idaho, Montana, or wherever. Nor is it advantageous in any way to do so.
Bullshit. Who else would want to go to such a place? Weird living conditions just take a bit of time to get used to and nobody is going to bother you.
If it's not that hard, everyone would do it.
All the efficiencies for transportation and infrastructure are possible because of big cities. One of the biggest contributors to us getting climate change under control will be our ability to leverage the most amount of green energy policies for the least amount of resources.
Which would require far more energy to support. Concentration means easier logistics, less transportation, and less overall resources required
you dont have the first clue what you're takling about.
To put in perspective, the population in 1980 was about 4.5bln. So we could erase almost half the global population and still have a workforce like 1980. 8 BILLION is way more than ever needed to exist (at the same time).