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[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

I've never understood this rift... I like Star Trek and Star Wars. Can't we just agree that we're all sci-fi nerds?

[-] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 25 points 11 months ago

They’re very different takes on futuristic sci fi.

I enjoy Star Wars but I’m not a “fan”, it’s just a very different series to what I most enjoy watching.

[-] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

Uhhhgggh I have to be that nerd, Star Wars isn't the future, it's a long time ago, in the past.

[-] grayman@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

In a galaxy far, far away.

Literally not in our galaxy. Not in a close one either. Star Trek is, with the exception of 1 episode (?), in the milky way galaxy.

[-] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

They're literally the first things we learn about Star Wars.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I would agree. I think 'fan' would apply to at least being into the lore. I'm not especially into the lore of Star Wars beyond what I see on screen. In Star Trek, I like discussing the lore, the "science," etc. I'm definitely a fan.

[-] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Star Wars is actually fantasy though.

The force is literally magic

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Yup. It's all about magic, swords, princesses, etc. There's literally light and dark wizards.

It's a fantasy series in a Sci-Fi environment.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago

Which is why I've always thought that KTOR is a far better fit. Precisely because you can kind of just have medieval fantasy with lasers. There isn't this big overarching empire with their ever inbigening anti-planet devices.

Because it's fantasy it's kind of gone off the rails to a certain extent, there was a reason that all of the good shows are smaller in scale. Andor could be about the French resistance in the second world war and it would still work. Mandalorian could be a western.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Mandalorian ~~could be~~ was a western.

Fixed that for you.

[-] JWBananas@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago
[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I mean it's implied that Q is just from a super advanced civilisation, rather than being innately magic. One of the first things we learn from Q is that he believes humanity has a chance of being a society that will some day be on the same level as them.

IMO the Q are presented as more of a Clarke's Third Law ("Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic") kinda thing. Think about how the Mintakans view Picard in the episode Who Watches the Watchers - they view him as being a magical, god-like being, due to them looking at him through the lense of a primative society. That's how the Q are meant to appear to us.

The Force in Star Wars is never presented that way. It's literally just a magical force that you can either tap into, or you cannot.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Yes, but I think "FanDom" implies "Fanatical Domination" meaning someone in The "FanDom" of a certain thing is sexually aroused by dominating other with their fanatical following of said thing.

That's the only explanation I've been able to come up with and I find it hilarious so I'm sticking with it.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

And Cons are about conning people into buying fan merchandize and provide a free advwrtisement in a form of cosplay.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

My daughter likes going to cons just to look at the cosplay and she never buys anything, so I guess they only conned her out of the entry fee.

[-] Klear@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And fans are blowhards trying to push their favourite thing on others a spread it further and further.

[-] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

It's "Fanatical Domain" but I like your definition better

[-] MelodiousFunk@startrek.website 13 points 11 months ago

Can't we just agree that we're all sci-fi nerds?

If only it were that easy.

[-] jawa21@startrek.website 9 points 11 months ago

Gundam scares me because I know I will love it, and there is such a huge amount of it that I may never crawl back out of that hole.

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Gundam has so many reboots and varying timelines and stuff.

I personally think 8TH MS Team is the peak show for a grounded war story version.

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

So say we all.

[-] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago
[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

But what if I just like the stars?

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