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[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

How is "15 minute city" bad messaging? Like how does that term lead other conservatives to leap to complete dystopia where no one can leave there zone and they will be hunted for sport?

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

Because imposing Draconian border regimes and terrorising violence on those deemed inferior is exactly what they themselves would do.

[-] Nemo@midwest.social 3 points 11 months ago

Honestly, for a lot of rural dwellers and exurbanites, "city" is a scare word all on its own.

They're not who need to be convinced, though, it's the urbanites and suburbanites. There are more conservatives in cities than our in the country, it's just that in the country we're in the majority and in the city we're not. The urban conservatives are the target audience for this message.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

yeah that's another bucket of worms onto itself. "City" is already charged in conservative language to mean something bad. It's like how "urban" is sometimes used to mean "black" in a negative way.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 11 months ago

It's great messaging that has no real reason against it. This is a problem for people who have power and money based on urban sprawl, and so they need some kind of argument. If they can't find one even halfway reasonable, then they must create a strawman version of the original idea. Conservatives are already primed to believe that leftists want to control every aspect of your life, and so it's a simple leap to believe this is yet another attempt at control. In turn, this reinforces that same belief for next time. It's the cycle of bullshit.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Maybe they've distorted it in the same way the BLM slogan was distorted? Like, when conservatives heard "black lives matter", it got translated to "only black lives matter" in their weird little absolutist brains. Maybe "15 minute city" translates into "you can only go 15 minutes from the bus stop or train station" for them.

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