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Special counsel Jack Smith hits back at Trump’s immunity claims
(www.independent.co.uk)
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If Trump was immune from being prosecuted from crimes while in office, what's stopping Biden from doing the same thing? Seriously, some one needs to ask Dipper Don that question!
"Okay Dipper Don, so if it's completely leagal for the president to overthrow the US government, why should Biden even let you back in office if you win the 2024 election? Couldn't he just do what you did but with way less incompetence?"
That's the best part of it, if the president is ruled absolutely immune, they can override anything including the supreme court, break any law, commit any crime. Biden could imprison Trump for life. I'm sure Trump knows this but he's desperate.
Remember that half of Congress is under GOP control. How should the Dems holds the court to account when they don't have the congressional control necessary?
I mean, I agree with you in general, Democrats are very unwilling to take off the gloves (this is actually a good thing, even if it is frustrating). Let's not layer on something they politically just cannot bring about.
Yeah....no. This has repeatedly proved itself to be an incredibly naive position. The bending over backwards for bipartisanship rather than going on the attack against the conservative cult has been a fucking disaster for this country.
I agree we have reached the point to take off the gloves. I am saying it is better that Democrats have, in general, tried to play by the rules as intended. We want people to want to be ethical.
Being a slave to the performative and procedural decorum when fighting a terrorist organization masquerading as a political party has worked out about as well as bringing a knife to a gun fight. There are so many instances where Democrats had Republicans by the proverbial throat, and had the opportunity to deliver real change for the American people.
Almost without fail they have ceded that advantage in favor of not upsetting the status quo, and then claiming later it was in all of our best interest even though Republicans turn around and blow up our institutions anyway. You're lying to yourself if you think that has been a winning strategy, or that it has anything to do with ethics.
If they rule for immunity, Biden should just hold Congress hostage until they pass some Constitutional amendments, such as scrapping Electoral College, adding term limits to Supreme Court, etc, then a final one that explicitly disavows any such immunity for the President or any other person, from the moment he releases them forward.
Hell, Biden could just order the Secret Service to lock up Trump. If he needed any sort of excuse he could just claim Trump has threatened him, which wouldn’t really be a stretch.
President sends secret service or military operation to gun down all supreme court members that don't fall in line, and then places the new judges. Immune to charges. Hmm.. I don't think the supreme court would find it in their best interest to vote the president has immunity