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[-] Followupquestion@lemm.ee 53 points 10 months ago

Try having small children; drive through a can be a lifesaver because you don’t need to unbuckle them, get their winter clothes on, get them into the restaurant, wait in line, order the food to go, then wait for the food, and then reverse the steps to get back into the car. It’s a giant PITA to just get some French fries, chicken tenders, and carrot sticks, let alone the drastically increased exposure to germs associated with a crowded restaurant. You may have heard, there’s a pretty bad wave of Covid, influenza, and RSV right now. Not sharing air with other people is a big part of staying healthy right now.

[-] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 24 points 10 months ago

You're assuming to get to a location you need a car, that's still car-centric design. If your primary argument for drive-throughs relies on the fact that you needed a car to reach the location in the first place then you're missing the problem.

[-] Mamertine@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

The person's point stands if they were on a bicycle. You can't just leave a child in a bike carrier at the bike rack.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 9 points 10 months ago

Not after that chewing-out by the police department, I can't.

[-] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Can you imagine doing such scary thing as WALKING?

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago
[-] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

New american aristoracy I guess?

[-] daltotron@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I mean their only point is really if the kids didn't have their "winter clothes on", which would be pretty unlikely on a bike, and I would think in a car, for the most part. I guess it depends where you're going, but that still seems like it would be a good idea, just before you leave the house, generally. I don't think walking into a restaurant, for maybe the minute from the parking space to the door, is going to be a more substantial amount of time, that you would have to have your "winter clothes" on for, compared to if you were entering any other building. I dunno, the tradeoff might be easier in terms of like, without winter clothes, it's easier to get your kids to go potty or change them, but that's kind of a moot point anyways, because most honda odysseys don't have toilets in them, and restaurants do.

Waiting in lines is going to be a problem regardless of whether or not you're in a car. It might be easier in a car, since you have more direct control of your children, but if you're walking, a stroller would be the best analogue for that, and you should probably have that anyways, if you're taking your toddlers for a walk.

It's also not as though walkable restaurants can't necessarily have outdoor ordering windows, hole-in-the-wall style, maybe helping to prevent the flu or what have you. If that's a major concern, though, I think a mask would be a bigger help. Maybe not for kids, they're kinda too gross for that. You could probably leave a kid inside of your little kid bike trailer, or kid's seat on the back or whatever, while you walk up to the hole in the wall and order your food, since they're in view the whole time, and that wouldn't be very inconvenient. I would think the only problem would be if you were going inside. There are some cool options for bike trailer strollers, if you wanted to just detach your kids from your bike, and then just like, go straight inside, but that's kind of a hassle, I haven't seen a good one since they all have to be overbuilt bike trailers first, and strollers second. Someone might make a good amount of schmoney if they could really nail that concept.

In any case, all their points are moot and bad and cars are bad and dumb.

[-] Boxtifer@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

Putting a child in and out of a bike carrier is a ton easier compared to a car seat. It's not really an issue.

[-] WallsToTheBalls@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago

Shhhh we’re hating on cars now, it doesn’t matter that they’re a massive utility the improves the day to day life of millions upon millions of people. Also, we don’t do kids here. Something something capitalism.

[-] Followupquestion@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Bring on the people movers and the monorails; I’m here for it, but I don’t want to get Covid again and as much as I despair of humanity, I have kids and so do millions of others so we should be working together to make a better world for current and future generations.

[-] franklin@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago

Maybe but if I had a choice between the two drive thrus would be out of here

[-] Followupquestion@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago

I respect your perspective but as a parent, trust me, life is really freaking hard as it is. Making it harder is unconscionable.

[-] franklin@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Not trying to downplay the right to your opinion but I feel like there has to be a better way to allow parents to enjoy options while also not making restaurants hostile to pedestrians

[-] Followupquestion@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

I absolutely agree with making more places pedestrian friendly, I just think a drive through makes too much sense to dismiss out of hand. Heck, I’m in favor of walk-up windows to better serve those of us who don’t want to go inside a restaurant even without kids.

[-] franklin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I just don't see how a pedestrian friendly place of business and a drive through can co-exist. Open to being proven wrong but as I see it, anywhere that incorporates a drive thru adds at least 3 areas where traffic intersects with customers in a dangerous manner: at the beginning, around the store and the unavoidable blind spot when leaving.

Not trying to take away from your ability to enjoy these things I just don't think they are a good solution to a public place, as with anything car centric.

[-] Followupquestion@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I don’t have images readily available, but there are little shopping centers surrounding parking lots where pedestrians go right from the sidewalks into the various restaurants/shops, if you can imagine a U shape for the shops and the parking lot and vehicular entrances inside the U. It just takes some planning and extra space, and you know, capitalism isn’t a huge fan of “wasted” space that isn’t generating revenue.

[-] Drusas@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago

You may have noticed already that I disagree with your reasoning for using a drive-thru, but you are not wrong that they make life easier, and I'm not even saying that you shouldn't use them. I'm just saying that kids can handle a brief bit of cold.

As a person who became disabled a few years back, I wish many, many more places would have drive through or order and pick-up without having to get out of your car. It's a valuable service. I just think it's over utilized by people who don't need it, which is bad for the environment and not great for how little exercise people already get (walking from the back of the parking lot is not the end of the world, people).

The pandemic was kind of a lifesaver for a lot of us. Suddenly delivery options and order for pickup options have become available where we used to have to struggle to go into these places. It's great. It's not great for the environment or for most people's health, but it's great for those who really need it.

[-] ethman42@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sonic works well without the drive through needed.

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