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submitted 10 months ago by Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I feel like things on Lemmy were pretty chill several months ago, and that’s started to change.

People used to talk each other like they would talk to a neighbor. Now I get the sense that people have become quick to be negative, attack, and not be constructive.

Am I crazy in feeling like the vibe has changed?

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[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

There has been an uptick in right wing nutbags and bOtH sIdEs morons... Coupled with the fact that we have to deal with Trump AGAIN had made all of us angrier because we didn't believe our neighbours could be THIS dumb to vote for a criminal that tried to overthrow democracy.

It's resulted in a tone of "I'm sick of this shit!!" from the left

Trump is a cancer.

[-] RickTofu@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

You're calling people nutbags, morons, dumb and cancer in the span of 4 sentences... Yes, for sure the "right wing nutbags" and "bOtH sIdEs morons" are the issue here. Stay humble buddy.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Did you miss the part where I'm saying that their stupidity is causing us to be more angry?

I also find a lot of lemmy replies is idiots replying and criticising a comment without adding any corrections.

Are right wing shooters NOT nutbags?

Are both sides people NOT morons?

Is Trump NOT a cancer?

Unless you have something to add and refute my claim, kindly do fuck off with your grandstanding.

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

"Right wing nutbags" did not type out your comment. You did. If you can't convey anger in a way that doesn't straight-up insult people, all you're doing is alienating people, and you really need to grow up.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I don't give a shit about alienating people that see women as second class citizens and trans people as something to be destroyed.

You can feel good about yourself being "grown up", I'll rather support those than need it instead of grandstanding on lemmy like some douche.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Its often difficult, but important, to be respectful while disagreeing. You'll find you alienate people a lot less, and win more converts if you do.

If its an outright bigoted comment tho, no need to respond: just downvote and report it, and move on.

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Exactly. The vast majority of people aren't brick walls, they're literally people with their own experiences and set of knowledge. They're all going to make decisions using that set because they literally don't know what other people experience.

[-] locuester@lemmy.zip -2 points 10 months ago

So you’re targeting half the US population with this “dumb people” accusation? And you feel this is tolerant and polite?

[-] valgarf@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 10 months ago

Tolerance always has a limit. And the one thing any tolerant society can never tolerate are intolerant people - because they will destroy that society. Trump and his followers are the very definition of intolerant.

Thus the "if you are tolerant, you have to tolerate me" argument is often used by aforementioned nutbags or internet trolls, and I very much hope you fall into the latter category.

And regarding stupidity - sadly there is no mechanism to ensure that it is fairly distributed. A less than ideal public school system paired with the propaganda of media conglomerates can easily result in a society with half the population considered "dumb" (not really stupid, but brainwashed / uneducated with a lack of critical thinking and/or a lack of basic scientific knowledge ...) - but I would not judge the US population that quickly. Trump is probably also a symptom of the broken US democracy.

[-] locuester@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

I certainly didn’t write “if you are tolerant then you have to tolerate me”. However what I wrote I can’t recall. Something about not being so nasty to dumb people. I stand by that statement. I don’t speak ill of dumb people or Trump supporters as a whole. The only reason to do such a thing is to incite anger from a group.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I don't tolerate those who have no respect for others. If you hate women, gays, trans people... No I won't tolerate you.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 10 months ago

Half at a minimum.

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