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[-] ytg@feddit.ch 98 points 9 months ago

Antisemitism to Palestinian support is like misandry to feminism. Yeah, some people might be guilty of it (and those who are, misunderstand the latter ideologies), but it's way overrepresented in opposing media, who is often guilty of such issues itself.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 28 points 9 months ago

Also "Stop Killing Children" or "Demand a Ceasefire Now" aren't "pro-Palestinian" messages, they're anti-killing messages.

Just because the children being killed happen to be Palestinian doesn't make that a pro-Palestinian message. It can be a general message that is applicable to whoever's children happen to be getting killed right now.

If someone says "stop the attacks on civilians now", how do you even know if they're talking about Gaza, Ukraine or both?

[-] ytg@feddit.ch 5 points 9 months ago

I'd argue that if they put up a Palestinian flag, it's clear that Palestine is being referred to.

In principle, though, I agree with your first point

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Sure, they're referring to Palestine in this case. But, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're fully "pro-Palestine". They're undoubtedly pro Palestinian kids. But, that doesn't mean that they side with Palestine over Israel in the general case.

[-] Zevlen@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Well they should... If You or they know the history of Israel

[-] HessiaNerd@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Aren't Palestinians a semitic people?

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 25 points 9 months ago

Yes but anti-semitism has been co-opted to apply only to Jews (erasure of millions of other semitic people, that is, people who speak a semitic language other than Hebrew) just like the Holocaust has come to mean only the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide, which is erasure of the 5 million other victims in the various groups that were killed by Nazis.

[-] ytg@feddit.ch 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That’s an invalid (strikethrough: dictionary) etymology argument, and you know it. To clarify, when I said “antisemitism” I meant “a discriminatory attitude towards Jews” or something along those lines.

Edit: this is an etymology argument, not a dictionary one; most dictionaries probably agree with me. I don't know how or why the word antisemitism came to be used to refer to Jews specifically, but surely it's been this way for most of its history.
Either way, the most authoritative meaning of a word is that which was intended by the one who uttered it.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Nice comeback and so civil as well. I wish I could do that.

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

But you didn’t utter it, you typed it.

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