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I'm always amazed that a bunch of redneck, Southern, city haters decided that a rich, Manhattan developer was one of them
Don’t be. They’re rubes. Dumber than dogshit. Just pawns in a game.
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Hard to give them a decent education when they defund the school systems because 'muh taxes' and denigrate their teachers and everything else public Ed ('ceptin the "pride of the town", the HS football team, because that one QB is gonna git scouted 'cuz he' s got a helluva arm)
Sorry, one more thought. No one ever voted for "let's impoverish rural america" just like no one ever voted for "let's make sure teachers can barely afford to live on their salary, while also expecting them to be the primary source of education for literally everyone in the country." Teachers (and many other groups) have a lot of righteous anger too. I don't see them doing what maga is doing, and I wouldn't expect them to get a pass if they did.
While I am more than OK laying much of this at the feet of corporate greed, I'm less so inclined to lay much of it at the feet of average non-rural folks just trying to get to work and feed their families every day. As you say - they've got the same requirement to do so as the magas.
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That's a fair point of view that I can't argue with!
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Social welfare programs, student loan forgiveness, higher education/tuition reform, minimum wage increases, UBI, single payer healthcare and on and on and on benefit EVERYONE, not just people who vote D or live in blue states. (Barring potential interference from R governors)
That doesn't mean there may not be some valid criticism about some of those programs, or that we might not have to experiment over time to get them right.
But it's VERY hard to have sympathy for folks who constantly vote against the party who proposes those (imperfect) solutions and participate in the vilification of those programs and that party, especially when they INSTEAD vote for the party who plainly has the interest of only one demographic in mind, and is actively trying to fuck over everyone not in that demographic.
We can't even try those things which may help them (and others), because they will never let us.
Edit: Final para of the article offers a similar summary:
They are the cause of their own downfall and reject any ideas that might help them. They deserve no pity. They've earned their place in the intellectual hierarchy. The smart ones all leave for cities with no plans to return.
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I'm not sure what your point is. Being a farmer doesn't make one worthy of worship. It also has no bearing on what I said. Most rural people are not farmers.
At least you know you're among the most stupid, so you've got that going for you.
The farmers I know, the ones that were able to actually keep their farms, generally aren't voting for the dumbass who caused crops to rot in their fields.
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You have no idea what I do and do not know.
By your own reasoning as you've outlined it, you are the one looking in the mirror here.
You are presuming a whole lot about me here based on very little, which is hilarious and yet sad.
I stand by what I said. Your attempt to disparage me is about you. If you had any interest in proving me wrong, you would be able to do so with facts instead of lashing out at me like a wounded animal.
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Your lack of self awareness on your approach here, your inability to recognizing how you're making me into a caricature while complaining that I am characterizing others is truly bizarre.
I wonder if makes you feel superior to me. You're dehumanizing me and can't see it. Crazy.
You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.
Are you referencing when Trump said he liked dumb voters? He knew he could get them to vote against their interests, their family interests and anything that would improve their lives. But yeah. "Screw that group of people I think I am better than"
Accurately pointing out what they are. In no way implies they have a monopoly. Despite democrats being measurably better by nearly every metric. They are still largely problematic and often do little to actually serve their constituents.
To be fair he went out among them and convinced them of that.
Maggie Haberman the journalist says that one of the things about Trump that is undeniably genius is his way of charming the people he wants to support him. That's how he won, by connecting with these people. It is his one singular talent.
It’s like they’ve never seen a Pace Picante Sauce commercial before.
Man that unlocked a memory from my youth...
They simply deny everything you present to them. Facts do not matter. They are literally living in their own imagination and refuse to accept reality. It is time to reopen the mental institutions and throw them back in, along with the ACLU clowns who let them out to begin with.
My gods y'all say some legitimately evil shit sometimes.
Defending against violent fascists is evil?
I know what side you're on now.
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I cant help but notice that your path of pacifism and "incremental change" has led to the rapid and accelerating rise of fascism....so until you can come up with a solution that has actually worked historically as well as mine has, you have no business trying to ivory tower your "superiority complex.
By the way, wtf does "less than a month old" mean? How is that relevant? Exactly what gate are you keeping, and by whose authority? How old are you? Were you born in the 90s or after? Do you have any concept of a world before cable news was able to spew nonstop propaganda and the airwaves weren't saturated with constant radical fascist garbage? I can assure you that there is no possible way that I could be their equal in any way whatsoever. You would probably have nothing to compare to to know that.
Removed, no threatening death camps.
no one said death camps, but ok. is lemmy another haven of limp-wristed do-nothings? there's a reason i left reddit.
The modlog preserves removed comments, so, yeah:
"let me know where i sign up to round up the conservatives and put them into camps and i'll be there, because I CAN READ THE FUCKING WRITING ON THE WALL"
That's going to get your comment removed.
Check the sidebar if you're not sure. Actually, if you're not sure, it's probably not a good thing to post.
ooooh, tough guy here.
ooo, weak guy here.
Removed, rule 3:
"Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!"
Removed, rule 6. Don't let yourself be baited.
"No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning"
Wait. Literal death threats are OK and stay up, but I can't call him a goof?
No, his was removed too.
It's still there. What happens to people put in concentration camps for political reasons again? Was just in the news, the Navalny guy.
Sorry, my bad, I hadn't gone far enough up the thread.
Reagan shutdown the mental institutions.
Whatever hatred you have for the ACLU is based on your ignorance.
Deleted - you weren't making the point I thought you were. Still though - yikes.