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[-] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 79 points 1 year ago

Charges for water?

Do they disclose the cleaning fee after checkout or right in the beginning? What about the convenience fee?

Are Texas prisons run by Ticketmaster?

[-] DoctorTYVM@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago

Americans have a punishment boner when it comes to the legal system. They don't want to prevent crime or improve society. They want the bad people to suffer.

[-] BigMcLargeHuge@mstdn.social 38 points 1 year ago

@VanillaGorilla @gAlienLifeform

Texas prisons are run by someone even worse than Ticketmaster.

They are run by Texas.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Well, Texas loves private prisons, so many aren't run by the state. This is another disgusting example of how libertarians get it wrong.

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm definitely no libertarian, but I do have one quibble with this - entirely private prisons are actually very little of the prison space in the United States. However, government run prisons do hundreds of millions of dollars in business with private vendors for things like the commissary and healthcare and phones &c., and all those businesses gouge taxpayers and inmates for substandard goods and services, because they're able to negotiate sweetheart contracts with government bureaucrats who don't give a shit and get lobbied like crazy (vendor salesperson: "Oh, your annual salary is only what? Ha, I've gotten commission checks higher than that! Let me get the tab for our lunch today.").

So it's a bit complicated but at the end of the day underfunding government services and throwing all of our responsibilities for things like taking care of our prisoners to for-profit companies is what's caused all of this, so the solutions to these problems aren't going to be coming out of a libertarian playbook imo.

[-] MrBakedBeansOnToast@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

FYI: the „et“ in etc. is Latin for „and“ so it’s redundant to say “and etc.”.

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah, I think I knew that at one point and then forgot it, thank you for reminding me

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I will admit that Texas has a lower percentage of private prisons than I thought, but I think any for-profit privatization of prisons is bad.

underfunding government services and throwing all of our responsibilities for things like taking care of our prisoners to for-profit companies is what's caused all of this

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so the solutions to these problems aren't going to be coming out of a libertarian playbook imo.

Exactly.

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I mean, with how our system works I'd bet this company (Commissary vendor Royal Pacific Tea Company) and TM share some investors at least, but this sort of thing is not unique to Texas prisons or limited to commissary fees.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Worst, Air bnb

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