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Decentralized vs. Federated
(kevincox.ca)
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Yea, increasingly it seems ActivityPub and this fediverse is just a prototype. It’s quite realistic that in 10 years we won’t be looking back on it with huge amounts of praise, apart from proving that this general model can work, which is huge.
I do wonder though, how would moderation work in true decentralisation. Who owns the community should the instance of its creator goes down? I guess user accounts would also be decentralised.
Yup. I'm messing around with decentralized services (e.g. IPFS and Iroh), and I think it would be really cool to have a completely decentralized service like lemmy. Some issues:
I think it should be possible to implement the Lemmy API and just use IPFS/Iroh as a storage backend to get started, and slowly push the server bits to the client as the userbase gets bigger.
I am thinking about what you describe since 2017 and have written a few words about it lately (just posted them, so shameless self-plug here): https://beyermatthias.de/a-distributed-social-network
Awesome! I'll need to put my thoughts together too at some point.
I basically just want decentralized Lemmy, which I think makes the problem a lot easier to solve. If we ignore text search, I'd only need to fetch all child nodes given a parent mode, with an optional time limit. Everything is a simple entity with:
I'm thinking of doing authentication with a blockchain mechanism, but I could use a handful of authentication servers instead. Your subscription info would be stored like any other entity, but encrypted.
And I like your idea of pinning, I've seen that used as well. I want to come up with a novel way of distributing data, such that people geographically near you are more likely to have the content you're interested in. I think Iroh is doing something similar, so I plan to see how they end up handling it, but that's an optimization that wouldn't be needed initially (could just use a naïve distributed hash table).
Some issues:
So I'm watching Iroh development because I think they'll have a lot of stuff in interested in using.
In Matrix right now the room would be orphant, but there is a longer discussion around this on GitHub https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec/issues/165