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On March 10th, several days after Incognito Market was assumed to be shut down or no longer be processing transactions, the site posted a message to its homepage that reads as follows:

”Expecting to hear the last of us yet? We got one final little nasty suprise for y'all. We have accumulated a list of private messages, transaction info and order details over the years. You'll be surprised at the number of people that relied on our "auto-encrypt" functionality. And by the way, your messages and transaction IDs were never actually deleted after the "expiry"...”

”SURPRISE SURPRISE !!! Anyway, if anything were to leak to law enforcement, I guess nobody never slipped up. We'll be publishing the entire dump of 557k orders and 862k crypto transaction IDs at the end of May, whether or not you and your customers' info is on that list is totally up to you. And yes... YES, THIS IS AN EXTORTION !!! As for the buyers, we'll be opening up a whitelist portal for them to remove their records as well in a few weeks.”

”Thank you all for doing business with Incognito Market”

Exit scams are not uncommon on dark web markets, but this one is particularly large and openly threatening compared to most. Incognito Market requires the loading of cryptocurrency to a site-based wallet, which can then be used for in-house transactions only. All cryptocurrency on the site was seized from user’s wallets, estimated to be anywhere from $10 million to $75 million. After seizing the cryptocurrency wallets of all of the marketplace’s users, the site now openly explains that it will publish transactions and chat logs of users who refuse to pay an extortion fee. The fee ranges from $100 to $20,000, a volume based 5 tier buyer/seller classification.

Incognito Market also now has a Payment Status tab, which states ”you can see which vendors care about their customers below.” and lists the some of the market’s largest sellers. Sellers which have allegedly paid the extortion fee to not have their transaction records released are displayed in green, while those who have not yet paid are displayed in red.

Additionally, in a few weeks the site claims it will have a “whitelist portal” which would allow buyers to wipe their transactions and re-encrypt chat records.

Whoever is behind the website must be extremely, extremely confident in their anonymity, already working with government agencies, or both, because a bounty on this person is likely worth millions.

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[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 44 points 8 months ago

or as soon as a moderator got flipped by the feds or had their account hacked by them

not even necessary, why wouldn't Discord give the feds some kind of full-record transcript file or a ghost guest account on the server? Discord doesn't make any extreme privacy claims AFAIK.

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Fascists often refer to Discord disdainfully as Doxcord because they believe that it leaks their details to the feds.

I'm not one to take the fash at their word but in this case I'd be inclined to agree. There's nothing about Discord that indicates to me that it's anything but a typical leaky platform which collaborates closely with government like WhatsApp or any other typical service like that.

[-] hello_hello@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You don't have to, Discord doesn't have end-to-end encryption at all. It's as secure as an IRC channel on a public network. While good IRC networks are moderated and everyone understands that their chats are logged, Discord has been able to sell its software to millions of users who have no digital consciousness to realize that none of their messages are private. Discord has ingrained itself into the digital psyche of society perfectly even though it is no less hazardous than any PRISM/Silicon Valley product.

I've had people tell me they feel secure using Discord because there's millions of people using it and they are more secure "in the pack." Like no, you're not more powerful than a HashMap, the entire fucking IT industry is built on chewing data.

Good friends don't let their friends use Discord. Matrix (though it used to be funded by an Israeli tech firm and generates a ton of metadata) in comparison is leagues better in basic decorum (no more gamer slop) + actually being a federated platform.

If you want something that actually checks the boxes for security than you can look at GNU Jami.

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

Flipping a moderator would let them use the moderator's account to encourage people to leak more details or do more crimes they can be prosecuted for, on top of whatever logs Discord will give them for a warrant (if Discord even requires warrants).

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