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Thoughts on DFLP et PFLP (It's like the splits between Judean People's Front and the People's front of Judea all over again lmao)?
DFLP?
Could just be a splinter, if there was a split recently (which isn't necessarily anything major).
Well, it's a historic one, though small...
CPUSA has had many splinters, but many don't leave their mark. Still, we have the FRSO and PSL, at the very least.
These are both organizations that continue to exist 30 years later and function, very different situation. It'd be closer to the IRA split or the OIRA/INLA split, but even then that was more influences by the stance on abstentionism. DFLP was born out of the Maoist faction of PFLP which was anti-revisionist ML. And to be fair DFLP split literally a year after PFLP was formed. It is less of a party fracturing than a movement forming and as party of that formation process, realizing that it has two stands which are better served operating separately. This has also led to them recruiting and serving as a pressure group in different Arab countries, with DFLP primarily in Syria these days.
Also, thanks for explaining, comrade.
Was the dflp pflp split not over the anti-PA line?
PA as in Palestinian Authority? The PFLP was formed 1967, DFLP split in 1968. That is nearly half a century away
Not necessarily the Palestinian authority itself but the movement to create one
PFLP was always super opposed to a two state solution until the turn of the century and then a decade later went back to one-state, and only started toying with running elections as part of a united front strategy with DFLP and other Marxists in '04, that fell through though.
DFLP did split during the time leading to Oslo over approval of Arafat and the peace process. Though the ideological core left and joined a front with the PFLP until the secretary general left the party and joined the capitulationists, letting the party heal in the process.
So essentially no matter what splits happen between PFLP and DFLP, they have never really been at odds over engagement in the two-state solution. When PFLP was entertaining a limited form of parliamentarianism, the DFLP was more or less inactive. Their initial divide seems to be just different camps. Not dissimilar to how some separate regional communist parties in India with separatist views would work alongside the Naxalites even if they didn't technically organize together.
Careful, my mate, you've already got your previous post crossposted to actualsocialism101.dbzer removed, because of sectarianism...
I don't think I'm being sectarian by expressing my preferences...
Eh still cutting it close, especially as they are literally fighting against a genocide right now. Any disagreements on Deng seem trivial in this situation. https://alhourriah.org/article/132203 That's a list of the shit they looted from the IDF.
Here is them posting a training video of what they did for prep for oct 7th https://twitter.com/KeanuNazari/status/1711746301908431031
And here they are actually seizing checkpoints https://twitter.com/KeanuNazari/status/1711069242089422896
Oh and a cool gun with a sign just for fun https://twitter.com/war_noir/status/1716080480708120974
That's fine.
You literally are, but it’s a mild case. “It’s just my preference to not like anarchists” would get struck down for sectarianism, but hey, we don’t enforce the rule at all if it’s against icepicks so what do I know?
Okay, thanks, I'm sorry for that, and thanks for being lenient.
I’m not a mod here lol, I was just saying
It's fine!