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He can't go any further right, so he can't be pushed right. Ergo, he can only be pushed left. Libs owned us yet again 
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I'm still not seeing a viable alternative. I disagree with your assessment of Biden's power and of the two parties, but that isn't even relevant since I'm not seeing a viable plan or any progress at all by you folks.
Blaming Biden for a few incidental deaths from a single incident is really dumb. There is no method of moving that much food into a crisis area without some risk of fatal accidents.
Trump would simply not supply aid at all. His son in law was just on TV salivating over the cheap beach-front property.
Yes shit sucks. No, you aren't the only ones to notice. Nobody's mad at you for noticing, but dickishness is not a political strategy.
Everything they said about the two parties was objectively true. And wow, nobody’s telling me how I can stop the genocide so I guess I’ll just vote for it again.
The adults in the room know that genocide is inevitable, that public opinion has nothing to do with material interests but simply with optics, and that it’s impossible to think outside of electoralism.
So revolution is impossible. Organising a power base outside of electoral politics is impossible. Stopping a genocide is impossible.
So the only solution is to slavishly support and empower the very regime that is actively supporting that genocide, because they unequivocally believe in it and will not be moved regardless of how bad public opinion gets or whether it costs them their positions.
Also, not only do you have to fight your enemy by devoting all your time to making them stronger, but you also have to be super nice and polite to everyone about it, because power and solidarity is actually built from tone policing in advocacy of things you don't believe on small corners of the internet instead of mutual aid and material conditions.
You'd be literally more useful doing nothing. Get out of here with that wrecker bullshit.
No, revolution isn't impossible, at least I don't think so. What revolution takes is a whole lot of hard work, and solid political strategies. The world today is very different from anything that came before. You can't turn a country the size of the US with brute force,band there is no easy button.
Of all the people on this planet who have failed to stop this genocide, you are most definitely one of them, so maybe ease up a bit on telling other people they are doing it wrong.
You, in one of the above comments:
So revolution is possible now, but it comes by empowering the reactionary state regime and attacking those who don't fall in line? You talk about hard work but offer nothing but vague assertions that anything but a slavish dedication to passive electoralism directly opposed to your supposed interests is wrong or impossible. It's wrecker bullshit and I suspect you know it.
Perhaps I will be, but I'll also know I tried. I'll know I devoted time and money and energy to Palestinian solidarity causes, even long before this most recent escalation of genocide. And, without getting too specific, I'll know that, for example, direct action disrupting the supply of arms to Israel from my country has made a damn sight more positive impact than you shaking your fucking pom poms for the genociders and demanding everyone else dance for them too.
You came here, to an international community of communists and anarchists who overwhelmingly do not believe in the vapid electoralism of the US, and most of whom couldn't cast a vote even if they did, to browbeat people into not giving tacit support to a reactionary state regime engaged in genocide. While also insisting that any potential alternative is childish, impossible, and harmful. Sounds like this one is on you.
They didn't respond to this one
And they won't. The only ones they reply to is where they think they can do some bullshit rhetorical deflection. They'll never justify their position or state their argument clearly, because they're totally full of shit and they know it.