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I’m pretty sure this whole plan is outlined by the Pentagon and the president just signs off. Not like he has much say in the matter anyway since he is just the rubber stamp tool of the military industrial complex.
People are simply brainwashed into thinking the president has any real power. He is just a figurehead and takes his orders from the powers that be: weapons manufacturers and their corporate shareholders who will profit from these sales.
The real issue is that the US economy is propped up by continued warmongering and arms sales. It doesn’t really matter who the president is anymore, he just signs his name on the piece of paper that is handed to him. A good president can use procedural loopholes to soften the blow a bit or maybe sell it as a good idea.
Trump is an idiot who doesn’t care and will do whatever makes him more money, be it from Russia, China, or the Saudis. He doesn’t care. He is for sale to the high bidder, domestic or foreign. He doesn’t have the bandwidth, capacity, or desire to give a shit.
Lmao, making this about trump. Biden isn't just rubber stamping this. He's an unapologetic zionist. He wants this.
You’re probably not wrong, I just wanted to highlight how much worse it would be under Trump.
You said
But you also said that the current president
Both of these things are just as bad, why do you think that a president doing whatever the arms companies want is better than a president doing whatever makes himself more money? Arguably I'd rather have a self interested guy in office than one who serves the blood god of the military industrial complex
The president is just a figure head, it doesn't really matter who it is
Unless it's bad president then they are worse somehow than the other figurehead that apparently has no agency also
You’re missing the point. The problem that needs to be addressed is the control of the military industrial complex not the quality of the fucking president.
So then it doesn't matter who the president is? You're flip flopping. Your ideological base is unfounded
OK how do we address that problem? Is voting blue going to do fuck all about it? No it's not.
If both of the 2 options in your precious "democracy" are pro-genocide even though most citizens are anti-genocide then your "democracy" is worthless and I don't care what happens to it
If even if the dude's hands were tied, he could still go out everyday and talk about how his hands are tied. But he doesn't.
That’s generally a Democratic problem, they are bad at communicating in general, good or bad issues. Unlike republicans who lie and complain constantly.
All the more reason to not need to vote for him then...
You’re missing the point. The president doesn’t make the laws, congress does. Who you vote for president doesn’t matter in that regard.
The alternative is a fascist dictator wannabe.
Ok, you're contradicting yourself there with those two lines, why should anyone care about the "fascist dictator wannabe" if he doesn't have any real power
Make up your mind and put that cake down
You americans already have a fascist, how many times do you need to vote for the "lesser" evil before you recognize you are still supporting evil?
OK let me vote for third nonexisting option that I pencil in and waste my vote.
We all have the options are given to us, fuck do you want me to do about that?
The issue of changing the structure of the system the currently exists is the problem. Until the root causes addressed, the solution lies in congress making changes. Since I don’t see that happening anytime soon, how is one one supposed to change the voting options?
And here you see the real problem. You confine yourself to thinking that the options given to you by the bourgeois class are the only options. Have you considered there is more to political power than voting? I doubt the so called "root causes" you're thinking of can be changed, at least in America, so if you really cared about harm reduction maybe try joining an org, volunteering for food not bombs, supporting pro Palestine protests etc, and these are just the mildest forms of direct action. Those madlads that smashed up the elbit factory did infinitely more to help the people of Gaza than you voting for biden ever will.
Your proposed solution is violence against a private company instead of voting and having a rational discourse within the established societal system? I should give up voting to become a terrorist? Wow. Much intelligence. So smart.
Why not? You said yourself the president doesn't have any real power; you may as well vote for your cat.
Also those guys aren't terrorists, they were trying to stop a factory that produces weapons for a country that's literally involved in a genocide.
Go have that rational discourse from Gaza; charge your phone and stream your opinions on twitch.
This has been attempted for quite a while to no awhail. Since this was not listened to, violence is the necessary next step
Yes, causing damage to the bourgeoisie is more effective than picking which bourgeoisie is in charge of the two available options, and its how every civil right was won. Sabotage is one step above strikes, and dragging a factory owner out of his home and beating him to death is only a few steps higher on the "listen to us or we're not playing" scale
Oh Jesus fuck. Just get out of here lib
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According to your own logic, your vote is (even more) wasted if you spend it on Biden or Trump. You need to get rid of the MIC, the president doesn't hold any real power and is just a figurehead. As such it does no good to give approval to either of the two enthusiastic supporters of the MIC
Presidents aren't dangerous, but will magically be dangerous if trump gets elected?
smol bean democrats
It's just a stutter!
If this:
Then this doesn't matter
Pick one or stop caring about the election.
When you put it that way, I feel so bad for him.
Don't, he's a zionist ghoul. He's all-in on this shit anyway.
But he's just a smol bean
The commander in chief doesn't have authority over the military? Interesting how he manages to bypass Congress to sell weapons to Isntreal