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Image is of Iranian missiles flying over the Knesset, the Israeli parliament building in Jerusalem.


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Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
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https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
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https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
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[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 38 points 7 months ago

One is luring soldiers, one is luring civilians

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
  1. I don't think both sides are using this same very specific tactic to begin with, if it's been used at all and it's not just random posts.

  2. It doesn't sit right with me to assume the worst for one side while assuming the best for the other when they're deploying the exact same methods. Zionists could just as easily say "The IDF is trying to lure Khhamas because they love beheading babies, Khhamas uses it because they know our heroic IDF soldiers will try to save the babies."

I'm not trying to both sides this discussion. I know the argument of "assuming intent" has been abused to deflect Israel's genocidal intentions, but there's a limit. This is a pretty extreme example of assuming intent and I don't like it, it feels dishonest.

[-] Sebrof@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago

I have no problem assuming the worst intention of Israelis when they are the ones actively committing genocide and the Palestinians are the ones actively resisting. There's already an asymmetry there. It's a pretty useful heuristic to assume the worst intent of the side commiting genocide. Personally, I am not concerned with being fair to both sides or hearing one side out or being careful with assuming intent when there already is such a clear demarcation between what each side is fighting for and why.

But, like you said. It may not even be true. Perhaps just posts. And if so, then the posts are just reflections of what the posters feel - one side is defending themselves from genocide, the other is actively engaging in it. Both sides would have different intentions toward the cries of Palestinian children. I don't think that's much of a stretch, so I don't feel we need to be too concerned with fairness is assuming the intent of genociders.

Also, sorry if am coming across as too callous, or too personal of an attack on your comment. I realize my voice my sound harsh on response to you, but my anger is toward Israel and I have no empathy for the IOF

[-] sisatici@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

IOF literally admits their soldiers were lured by crying baby sound. There is literally no evidence people who are lured by crying baby sound are hamas soldiers.

[-] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

Not that I doubt you, but do you happen to have a source handy? I have some Zionists to dunk on

[-] sisatici@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago
[-] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

Fuck me running when you said the IDF admitted it I thought you meant like someone let it slip on the news and a random Twitter poster found it

Not the actual IDF itself yea

[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

Not the actual IDF itself

You haven't been keeping up

[-] ziggurter@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

IDK I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume vastly different intents when one side is a genocidal, occupying army in their target, foreign community which has been slaughtering children left and right, and the other side is people in their own community fighting their oppressors. When there's a crying baby in the area, literally everyone is going to assume it is a distressed child who is a part of the community. And those two entities are going to search out the baby with very, VERY different intent.

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