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What should I do about carnist leftists? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by VeganicTankie@lemmygrad.ml to c/vegan@hexbear.net
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A lot of leftists are marxist-leninist, anti-sexist, LGBT+ and anti-racist. BUT, they'll tell you the dumbest right-wing arguments to justify eating animals. I get that people aren't ideal, but when you are the urban middle class of the West, there's no excuse to not be vegan. Absolutely, no, excuse, to, murder, animals. Historical materialism lets me ok people from poor/oppressed backgrounds being carnist. I would never denounce a carnist in Gaza, but the Westerners have no any excuses to abuse animals.

I get that some people just have no will, I know people can be addicted. But at least DON'T BE A JERK to vegans. Some "leftists" post propaganda about veganism like YT videos that are literally funded by oil corporations. Some "leftists" are so toxic I'd rather have a conservative as my roommate than them.

The "leftists" lie all the time. Meat, dairy, eggs and honey are luxury products available mosty to those in the imperial core. The poor countries like India, Nigeria, Uganda and North Korea eat diets closest to veganism BECAUSE plant foods are the cheapest foods, not carnist subsidized McFood.

Dealing with leftists, especially online, is draining to me. How can I be productive as a leftist and not go insane? How can I cooperate with carnists to achieve the revolution? I see no easy solution here

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[-] KittyBobo@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm in a Telegram server that's otherwise very queer and very radical, but when veganism gets brought up (and boy do they love to bring it up like it's the biggest deal in the world right now) it's always some upsettingly reactionary meme that looks indistinguishable from a 2010 4chan meme about ugly whiny feminists. And I know I can't say jack shit because it's either have friends/contacts or be ostracized for pushingback on reactionary shite. 🙃 I don't even care what personal choices they make, but damn they could atleast update their talkin points to something post GamerGate level reactionary shite. Other than that the hardest part about veganism isn't that I'm so used to eating certain things it's that you really have to learn to cook and prepare your own meals a lot more with veganism, there aren't as many prepackaged options I can rely on when I'm too depressed or don't have the spoons to cook.

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