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What should I do about carnist leftists? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by VeganicTankie@lemmygrad.ml to c/vegan@hexbear.net
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A lot of leftists are marxist-leninist, anti-sexist, LGBT+ and anti-racist. BUT, they'll tell you the dumbest right-wing arguments to justify eating animals. I get that people aren't ideal, but when you are the urban middle class of the West, there's no excuse to not be vegan. Absolutely, no, excuse, to, murder, animals. Historical materialism lets me ok people from poor/oppressed backgrounds being carnist. I would never denounce a carnist in Gaza, but the Westerners have no any excuses to abuse animals.

I get that some people just have no will, I know people can be addicted. But at least DON'T BE A JERK to vegans. Some "leftists" post propaganda about veganism like YT videos that are literally funded by oil corporations. Some "leftists" are so toxic I'd rather have a conservative as my roommate than them.

The "leftists" lie all the time. Meat, dairy, eggs and honey are luxury products available mosty to those in the imperial core. The poor countries like India, Nigeria, Uganda and North Korea eat diets closest to veganism BECAUSE plant foods are the cheapest foods, not carnist subsidized McFood.

Dealing with leftists, especially online, is draining to me. How can I be productive as a leftist and not go insane? How can I cooperate with carnists to achieve the revolution? I see no easy solution here

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

You kind of just need to chill out. You can't control how people eat, and the more aggressive you are about demanding it, the less they'll listen anyway. You are experiencing acute upset by something that is probably not going to significantly change in your lifetime. I'm not saying that it isn't worth doing anything, but I am saying that you should try to find a way to compartmentalize your feelings. This will make things easier on you, and it will make you more approachable as a vegan. When someone wants to argue with you about it, respond with why you are vegan, rather than why they/everyone should be vegan.

I've been vegan for 24 years, and I've seen a lot of people go through a "vegan phase". A common characteristic I've noted among those who didn't last was anger. It isn't a sustainable emotion.

Anyway, I'm sorry if this offends you or someone else reading this, but it's the best advice I can give on how to reconcile your veganism with the world around you.

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