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Like 90% of carnists are pathetic babies who need the gentlest of kiddie gloves to not get scared away from doing the right thing, and will take any excuse to immediately slam the door on you and keep their murder treats.
If someone is trying to "transition" to veganism though: they already know right from wrong and are making excuses for why they are doing something they know is wrong. They can probably be bullied into being better. Worked on me - sickos in this very comm repeatedly pointed out how my actions did not match my principles.
You're right, but why are you handing them those excuses when you know yourself that it perpetuates more death? Even hardcore carnists can be hugely softened by just not making a big deal out of things. Even people that haven't gone a day in their adult lives without eating flesh and adamantly insist that they don't consider something a real meal unless a creature died or was abused for it can be taught to go a few days a week without killing something if you give them the kiddie gloves. You don't want the kiddie gloves? Fine. Your self righteous zealotry results in the perpetuation of more death.
We live in a fucking insane world. You should be mature enough to understand that it's worth tempering your disgust.
Carnists are actual fucking babies, and here comes the aeroplane. No, it doesn't have meat in it. Why? I think it would ruin it. Yeah, you can have the recipe.
Great, now your meal rotation is slightly less violent, but I'll keep that to myself for now.
I'll take less violence in the world over juvenile self indulgent anger that convinces carnist babies that blood and dairy is what normal personable people eat.
I am the friendly vegan in most of my interactions, because I live in a world full of carnists and don't want to be a social pariah. I try very hard to be patient and not burn bridges where I could be building them. I also learned to cook some pretty dope dinners for my friends that you wouldn't even think to add animals to. 90% of carnists needing kiddie gloves means that if you wanna be an activist, you gotta get used to wearing kiddie gloves. Sorry if I was unclear.
With all that said, is it not okay to vent frustration that this is the way I have to approach the mass slaughter of innocent beings? In a space for fellow vegans?
Again, you're right, I'm just keenly aware that we're being watched here by people who may be considering whether or not something should have died for the last flavorless piece of processed meat they ate. I would like to assure them that in my opinion, any time you choose to eat or use less animal products for ethical reasons, you're doing the right thing, even if you can't manage it for whatever reason all of the time, or even most of the time.
I think those curious eyes seem to have now realized this is a space for vegans.