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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/4354593

If Ukraine loses war, it will be 'end of Western hegemony', warns UK's Boris Johnson

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[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I actually did not, huh. I knew the US had sent loads and loads of ammunition over, but just that - so they're really incredibly screwed? I sorta figured that this would end with Ukraine ceding a little bit of territory and western corps profiting somehow. It's joever for nato?

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago

Remembet how NAFTA sent all the manufacturing jobs to other countries? That was pretty profitable, but it turns out being able to make shit during a war is more useful than money. We don't have the manufacturing capacity to keep up with Russia.

Remember how capitalism and grift has made the military expensive and inefficient? Turns out that our cutting edge weapons tech is hot garbage because the money isn't going to the people and machines that do the actual making.

We're short on missiles and we don't have the tech edge anymore. We can't ramp up industry because we don't HAVE industry anymore. And the obesity epidemic has left us with a shallower pool of potential recruits or draftees, to say nothing of the political demoralization of youth.

Russia is opposite on all that stuff, and might be the most capable fighting force on the planet right now. They're just not as equipped as well for imperialism as we are.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

Oh yeah, that silly neoliberalism stuff finally blowing back, huh...

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

It’s pretty much joever. Russia has turned their industrial capacity on and is preparing for war with the entirety of NATO if nato is dumb enough to push Russias buttons. In order for the United States and Europe to do anything similar they would have to build brand new factories, teach people valuable and high paying skills, design all new weapons to deal with the new threats of a modern battlefield, the produce like it’s never produced before. Literally none of that is going to happen for various reasons.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

Soviet industrial capacity carrying a clown country 30 years later ussr-cry

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

No a lot of this increased capacity is due to new production lines. Soviet industry I’m sure is still being used, but Putin has put a heavy emphasis on domestic capacity and an understanding that self sufficiency is the key to the multipolar world. That being said the only reason he does that is because of his Soviet upbringing, not that he’s a communist or anything, he’s just not a dumbass.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah, I recall reading articles alluding to this shortly after the Georgian debacle; the framing of it was generally that of making Russia more insular and capable of weathering sanctions, especially in the aftermath of that conflict

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