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So if enough people won’t fight the government should shut down and let the invaders take over? Is that your alternative? Civilisations sometimes need to force people to work for a common good. See also vaccines.
what is good for the commons about shoveling more unwilling ukrainian bodies at a fight they want to be over
awesome yes, they should let putin take everything over so he can then shovel Ukrainian and Russian bodies into his next annexation project!
That's literally what will happen if Ukraine keeps on fighting. They have sent literally every soldier and every piece of equipment they had into the breach. They have sent multiple times over the budget of Russia's military in and it's been destroyed. They are running out of everything. The average age of a Ukrainian soldier has sky rocketed.
This only stops with a negotiated peace deal.
yeah if they want to surrender that's their decision, lmao? people in other countries don't exist to be pawns of US foreign policy, they actually have their own lives and interests
How to say you don't understand the concept of democracy.
Lmao. They’ve got an army from another country tearing through their land. I reckon they’ve got larger problems than “this isn’t the best form of democracy in the world”. Again, no solution from you apart from lying on their backs.
If people wanted to defend their land they would do it voluntarily. Evidently this is a hard concept for liberals to wrap their heads around.
Do you know how revolutions start?
Hey man, there's no point arguing with this guy, he's a Russian shill.
He's all over lemmy spreading this shit all the time
Ah yes, anybody pointing out the obvious is a Russian shill. Amazing how McCarthyism is still alive and well.
Yep, and the instant horde of Hexbear users brigading the comments section in their defense is patently obvious as to what's going on. Astroturfs gonna astroturf.
Ah yes people demonstrating that you're full of shit with sources are the ones astroturfing. Go home little turd.
Orc hordes at Hexbear, their meat waves astroturfing.
You got 8 downvotes. Hexbears can't even downvote
The “common good” in bourgeois democracies is the good of the capitalist class at the expense of the working class.
Wikipedia: Bourgeois revolution
BBC: [Princeton] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
I don’t mean to imply that Russia isn’t a bourgeoise democracy—it is as well, but at least it’s not under the boot of the imperial core like Ukraine is. Russia emancipated itself from the US neocolonial shock therapy plundering that began with Yeltsin and ended with Putin.
If even an actual invasion does not motivate a sufficient number of people to volunteer to fight for their government, then why should that government be seen as worth preserving?