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So many people I know through the workplace have done the Myers Briggs nonsense and hold onto their persona like a badge of pride. They're well meaning, intelligent people who don't know the background of MB and how it's as scientifically rigorous as those paper chatterboxes we made in school to help you find out which boy you were going to marry by picking a colour.
I don't say anything when people bring it up. I also have a few star sign friends. Sigh.
I remember when this nonsense was new and all the rage... I took a full online test, like 200 questions, about 6 different times over about 3 months.
Turns out, the test results changed a lot depending on my current mood, recent experiences and stress level.
It baffles me that still to this day even many professionals and business people think this has any merit.
People who unironically believe in astrology are worse though. Which is a shame, because seemingly nearly everyone on a dating app of any kind is basically either a religious conservative, or a weed addicted astrology believing 'leftist'.
I take them for shits and gigles when I'm bored. I always got the same result.
Lol same, I feel attacked as an INTJ for the last 15 years.
So did you end up marrying the purple boy?
Sure, but a lot of people have also 'heard' that mbti is not scientifically valid and go around parroting that without any knowledge of what specifically science says about it.
It is entirely possible that outside of a scientific discipline, mbti works well enough for people to use.
Kind of like how we use the term "meme" and understand what it means but the concept of memes are not used in science because other models of cultural evolution have better explanatory power.
Totally agree - just because MBTI is all made up, doesn't mean it can't be helpful for people! I think it still holds value since it helps people recognize their strengths and their differences from others. Anecdotally, I have definitely been on work teams where it has led to greater collaboration and mutual respect!
Lot of people in this comment section are neglecting that it can just be fun for some people, and there's no need to stake your entire identity on a personality test
It gutted me. I was so into the typology for about six months.
From what I can tell, it wasn't until around the turn of the century that it was widely regarded as total bunk. I know it was used in professional psychological and occupational contexts in the '90s.
I always pay attention to how people feel about either the astrology or MBTI, that does give you some helpful information about them. And if they don’t agree, that also gives some information. They’re just tools to help us understand each other or ourselves, I don’t think we have to be negative about that.
Astrology can be fine as long as you don't take it too seriously. It's not much different than a favorite color or lucky numbers.
Favorite color is a faaaar cry from astrology and "lucky numbers".
feng shui would disagree.
also my computer should face the east in the spring time in order to get the most of my blessings.
Okay so say feng shui or whatever, not "favorite color".
Feng shui has colors and elements and numbers and orientations and all of that. Shapes. They do have that too.
It's a rabbit hole. Believe me.
Again, okay, whatever. What I was saying "having a favourite color" and "feng shui" is a totally different thing.
Clearly you are ignorant of what you say. It shows.
Clearly you can't read and understand that there is a difference between "my favourite color is red" which is prefference, to feng shui, which is basically astrology. I won't be replying to you further since you either don't understand what has been written, or you are trolling, in both cases making me not want to interact with you further. Good day.
Whatever, stop blabbering.
Clearly you are ignorant of what you say. It shows.
Feng shui is a complicated mystical framework placed over "arranging my stuff in certain ways makes me feel good." It's an art that gets treated like a science. There is some actual value there if it would drop the scientific pretense and mysticism.