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[-] CindyTheSkull@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

Why not skip the middle step?

Go ask the NATO bloc and their supporters. The obvious and surface answer is that it has to do with making for an easy "us-vs-them" identifier. "Of course they're bad, they aren't white like us good wholesome folk are, who are inherently good and wholesome because we're white, and being good and wholesome makes us right and correct in what we do and you can tell because we're white. The ones who are bad clearly aren't like us. They're not white!" Yes, it is circular reasoning and garbage logic. But I don't know why you're getting pissy at us for that instead of the dipshits white people who keep moving the goalposts on the meaning of whiteness, as they always have done to suit their agenda. Take it up with them.

[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml -4 points 4 months ago

Sorry I have no idea what you're talking about.

The thread was asking about authoritarianism. I was slagging the people who said it's about being black, not about Hitler, Stalin, the USSR, Putin, etc.

[-] CindyTheSkull@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago

You were asking about the shifting nature of the meaning of the term whiteness. Go up and read your own comment to see how you related that to authoritarianism. If you can't follow your own train of thought, then I can't help you because it makes it apparent you're not asking in good faith.

You're saying "authoritarianism = non-whiteness = opposition to the NATO bloc"

What I'm trying to explain to you is that "we" are not saying that. The people who use whiteness to justify their actions and otherize their enemies are saying that. This isn't difficult.

[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml -4 points 4 months ago

Like I said, I'm here to slag Yanks and their know-nothing racist views of the world.

It's astonishing how they'll confidently lecture ya on things they demonstrate complete ignorance of.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago

I think the myopic point you’re making is unintentionally promoting some heinous stuff, or else I have to wonder how you seemed to end up with a Lemmygrad alt account. I’m not seeing any “yanks” here being confused about race.

[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 months ago

The original thing was they said "authoritarianism is when not white".

After that it got confusing.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

I was slagging the people who said it's about being black, not about Hitler, Stalin, the USSR, Putin, etc.

This is holocaust denialism.

[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 months ago

Saying Hitler is white is holocaust denial?

This thread became gibberish a while back

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Equating Hitler and Stalin or Nazi Germany and the USSR is holocaust trivialization, according to Jewish holocaust scholars. Dovid Katz did a popular article on it that you can probably search.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

You know that isn't what I was saying piss off.

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