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America’s premier pronatalists on having ‘tons of kids’ to save the world: ‘There are going to be countries of old people starving to death’ (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 6 months ago by mpk@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

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The highlight for me is coming up with some weird pseudoscience justification for why it’s okay to hit your kids.

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[-] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 43 points 6 months ago

Malcolm and Simone Collins with their children – Octavian George, four, Torsten Savage, two, and Titan Invictus, one – at home in Pennsylvania.

bye

[-] mawhrin@awful.systems 18 points 6 months ago

they definitely missed out on naming two of the daughers ursa minor maior and ursa maior minor.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 19 points 6 months ago

Their next kid will be named Ultima Thule, and they will claim very loudly that this is just because they are so big fans of astrology and that they never heard of the controversy regarding the name.

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 14 points 6 months ago

jfk

Ultima Thule was a Swedish white nationalist band back in the day.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 6 months ago

Ow yeah I'm joking here. But it was really weird that they tried to name the asteroid Ultima Thule (and it is also odd that this controversy isn't on the wikipage).

[-] cstross@wandering.shop 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

@gerikson The name predates the white nationalist band by *several centuries*. Per wiki: "In classical and medieval literature, ultima Thule (Latin "farthest Thule") acquired a metaphorical meaning of any distant place located beyond the "borders of the known world"."

I suspect they renamed the KBO Arrokoth precisely to avoid the unfortunate recent connotations of the name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 10 points 6 months ago

Oh I am aware of the term's history[1], but just like the humble swastika some stuff can become tainted (although I believe that Ultima Thule the band is only locally infamous here in Sweden). I do know that if someone presented themselves as Ultima Thule I'd do a spit-take, but so would I if I was presented by someone named Titan Invictus.

Arrokoth is a fucking metal name tho.

[1] pretty sure the first I heard of it was in one of Evan S Connell's great collection of essays.

[-] o7___o7@awful.systems 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

In the spirit of denying the regular suspects any unearned cultural territory...

This discussion reminded me of a story that Margaret Killjoy at Cool Zone Media released last year about the residents of Valhalla doing some anti-fascist work. Alas, I couldn't find a transcript.

Nazis Don't Go To Valhalla https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/nazis-dont-go-to-valhalla-spooky-week-5/id1449762156?i=1000540089027