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[-] Zess@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

The people with the money don't understand the science. If you can't convince them that your science is worth investing in then why would they give you money? What's really shocking is that a Nobel prize winner isn't smart enough to understand that.

[-] suction@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The idea is that those people shouldn’t be the ones with the money.

[-] Zess@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Then the academics should get better at taking it from them :)

[-] ormr@feddit.de 6 points 5 months ago

The problem is not that one has to communicate the significance of research. However since the people with money don't understand the science, they can easily be mislead. And there are also big trends when it comes to funding so you can participate in the buzzword olympics to secure your funding. And this is where you leave the path of just communicating your research and its potential honestly.

The second point where this Nobel prize winner is very right is that it's all about networking, all about names. I don't know why we can't just publish research under a pseudonym, a number would suffice. This would make publishing and reviewing less susceptible to bias.

[-] hellofriend@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Same reason why we name amps and volts after Ampere and Volta. It's about recognition and legacy. Imagine you discover some new form of matter, a specialized region of the brain, a key component of time travel, or some algorithm that accurately describes any human interaction. Something revolutionary. Would you be content if it wasn't named for you? Ormr Matter, Ormr's Area, Ormr's Theory of Inverse Relativity, Ormr's Equation for Social Simulation. This is really just the extreme case, but I think it works well to demonstrate the point.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Would you be content if it wasn’t named for you?

Yes. I recognize that most people don't think this way, though.

[-] suction@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Very well put. That’s a big reason why the world is on fire: People trusting bad actors too easily because they know how to talk good.

[-] hellofriend@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

At that point it should become a problem of educating, not politicking.

this post was submitted on 29 May 2024
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