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"Tankies" tend to use the term liberal in the classical sense, which lumps conservatives in with progressives.

[-] aleph@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's somewhat confusing since a classical liberal and a modern social liberal are quite distinct things. Plus, even two hundred years ago liberals were distinct from conservatives.

I suppose to tankies, it's liberals all the way down.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

If you believe in democratic socialism, to tankies, you're a liberal.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

"You think China and Russia should be socialist democracies? Pfft, what a typical liberal."

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

And if you're a Social Democrat like me, they'll think I have a shrine to Milton Friedman.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most self-aware freikorps supporter, if you're a social Democrat you're just announcing to everyone that you are going to be predisposed to trying to accommodate fascism abroad if it means you personally get healthcare and economic benefits.

[-] Belastend@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Social democrats arent democratic socialist but go on

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the demonstration, of tankie ignorance of the difference between socdems and demsocs, of how everyone not a tankie is a liberal or a fascist; and, ironically, what 'critical support' is.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Making a distinction without a difference. You're also acting like there's some vast landscape of democratic and/or socialists out there, just waiting to spring into power. That might be true, (I doubt it) but if your position on the most important question: "Do we continue to feed innocent bystanders into the war machine" is something you all have in common you're gonna get painted with the same brush as the rest of the more national socialists.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I mean to a Tankie, a "liberal" is just someone who disagrees with them. And some apparently consider it a derogatory slur, from the way they say it.

It's really quite humorous.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's intentionally confusing. It's a Russian psyop tactic that tankies have picked up.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

I hear the tankies even got the "Liberal Democrats" in the UK to name their party that in order to confuse Americans, on orders from Vladimir Putin. Is there no end to his scheming?

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Objection@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Learn something about the world, liberal.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Regular-ass Socialists use liberal in the same way you're describing, as do Anarchists.

[-] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As far as I can tell the tankie definition of “liberal” is “anybody that doesn’t have Xi Jinoing’s cock so far down their throat that his balls are playing a bongo solo on their chin.”

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