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[-] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

Vote Biden so elections keep happening and make change at your local level. Voting in the interest of the people in local races where your vote really makes a difference. That's the only peaceful way to improve I know of.

Giving up hope is what the owner class wants.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think the owner class has come to use false hope as yet another tool to keep us docile. Change can come... just keep supporting one of these 2 parties we pay very well, and be so patient you'll die hoping!

Lots of little ways to manipulate hope. We love to crow about our right to protest, but the only "protest" allowed is non-disruptive with a permit out of eyeline of those your protesting in a designated protest zone so as not to... Gasp... disrupt commerce. That kind of protest is masturbation. Any real protest and we'd be killed just like all those places that don't allow faux protest or real protest.

Why fight those you lord over, when you can manipulate them into fighting one another, and even profit off their infighting?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Lots of little ways to manipulate hope. We love to crow about our right to protest, but the only “protest” allowed is non-disruptive with a permit out of eyeline of those your protesting in a designated protest zone so as not to… Gasp… disrupt commerce. That kind of protest is masturbation.

That kind of protest is essential. Just because it's not the only form of protest that should be pursued doesn't mean it's worthless, or not a major part of the solution. Disruptive protests are an escalation that should be used carefully.

In any behavior, you should ask yourself how you would like the government to act if it was your opposition doing the same. It's my view that it is necessary for the government to take steps to disband disruptive protests, but that it is also morally correct to endure in making disruptive protests in the case (and insofar) you find it strengthens a just movement, despite government repression.

Any real protest and we’d be killed just like all those places that don’t allow faux protest or real protest.

We are a very long way away from 'all those places'. Don't confuse being bad with being equally bad.

this post was submitted on 04 Jun 2024
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