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[-] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 years ago

How are europeans not marching to take those ppl out of power and dismantle this shit? Arent you guys afraid of the conflict?

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

From what I hear from people IRL?

No. Not even because of a belief the west will win. Lots of people seemingly don't care if they die.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

Lots of people seemingly don't care if they die.

"Our government and the media assures us it's worth it!"

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Generally:

  • People believe the propaganda that China is doing something threatening, though I don't get what that would be.
  • They lived thru the cold war so they think nothing will happen and there's no reason to worry (because apparently the reason nothing happened during the cold war was that those who were against nuclear holocaust did nothing instead of political agitation and a lot more).
  • They say something like "eh they're just doing it to get reelected, besides all politicians are bad"
[-] sgtlion@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago

Plenty countries marched for it en masse decades ago. Nothing changed. Marching achieves nothing anymore, not even riots (see: French pension law).

Violent political suppression is just too strong in Europe, the people have little say anymore, even with direct action.

[-] EatPotatoes@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

Like the 80s were wild. Incredible movies like threads or testament. Stay at home moms tiring themselves to military base gates and intercepting shipments and waste dumps.

None of it worked and we got so complacent when the Cold War ended. Nothing threatens them. Unions and direct action campaigns are honeypots waiting to be turned inside out.

[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago

Organize unionize strike is the power we have until the proletariat is ready for armed struggle

[-] Brickardo@feddit.nl 11 points 2 years ago

Rather, we've ostracized the countries who know full well the power resides in the working class (for instance the French)

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