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[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

That was really really good.

As a middle aged man, I almost wish the girls were a little less sexually drawn, as I think I'd enjoy the anime for just the comedy.

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

To me the style always seemed less sexualized and more "the animators don't know how to a booby"

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

if you look up the manga/DVD covers there's definitely some sexualization going on. but I haven't seen the show so idk if that extends too much to the actual content.

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

Well, how do you count "too much"?

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

yeah, I mean its not like a moral condemnation exactly, just that as an adult I'm not interested in sexualized high schoolers and am uncomfortable with the extent to which they are used to market to adult men. The cover being a character in just a swimsuit or with her skirt blowing up is at least a bit questionable. Honestly devoid of context maybe I wouldn't take as much issue, but I know how skeevy or worse outright pedophilic anime and manga sometimes are, so I have a hard time giving the benefit of the doubt when I see anything questionable. I definitely didn't get the vibe that ""the animators don't know how to [draw] a booby""

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Really the only thing that I personally find offensive in Azumanga Daioh is this widely reviled recurring character called Mr. Kimura, who "became a teacher because he likes high school girls". He appears in episodes 1, 4, 6, 7, 10-17, 20, 21, 23, and 26, I think in most of these episodes exactly once — but obviously with a character description like that, even a very brief appearance would leave a bad taste in my mouth. Kimura also briefly appears in the intro — the intro is incidentally also where that "skirt getting blown up" picture is from, that's actually the character getting launched into the air and falling.

Nevertheless, Azumanga Daioh is rated G~PG in most jurisdictions around the world. I've watched the show cap-a-pie with my boomer mom, a bit with my brother, and my mom even wanted to show Azumanga Daioh to an even older relative of ours, too. So Azumanga Daioh is, like the planet Earth, mostly harmless. I have sometimes thought about torrenting Azumanga Daioh just to give Mr. Kimura the ol' purge-2 treatment, because without him, the worst the show gets is just a few eyeroll moments or maybe specific triggers for some people. You can check IMDb's parents' guide or DoesTheDogDie for more information.

By the way, the "manga cover" I think you're referring to is actually the cover of Dengeki Daioh magazine's August 2001 issue. Probably specifically the picture used at the top of the Wikipedia article for "Dengeki Daioh". So while it is plenty gross that that is in fact official artwork, it is not actually one of the manga covers. Those covers look like so (from eBay):

Covers of Azumanga Daioh volumes one through four in Japanese. Each volume depicts the logo of Dengeki Comics in black in the upper right. Volume 1 depicts Sakaki, Chiyo, Tomo, Yomi, and Osaka in winter uniforms walking with their bags; a black speech bubble bearing the Azumanga Daioh logo in red and white points to Tomo's head; a golden speech bubble with a black numeral 1 points to Yomi's head; a black speech bubble reading "Kiyohiko Azuma" points to Osaka's head. The background is white with a gradient to a greenish yellow near the bottom. Volume 2 depicts Chiyo in a summer uniform waving against a white background. A black speech bubble is above her head, with the Azumanga Daioh logo in blue and white. A golden circle is on the left-hand side of the speech bubble and bears a black numeral 2. In the lower right corner is a black cartouche-like shape bearing the name "Kiyohiko Azuma" in white. Volume 3 depicts Sakaki in black trousers and an orange sweater with a high neck against a white background. A black speech bubble is to the right of her head bearing the Azumanga Daioh logo in orange and white. In the lower right of the speech bubble is a golden circle bearing the numeral 3. In the lower right corner of the cover is a black cartouche-like shape bearing the name "Kiyohiko Azuma" in white. Volume 4 depicts Tomo, Yomi, and Osaka in various summer clothes, each also carrying a bag; Osaka also holds in her hands sata andagi. A black speech bubble in the upper left points to Tomo's head, and it bears the Azumanga Daioh logo in yellow and white. A golden speech bubble bearing the numeral 4 points to Yomi's head. A black cartouche-like shape in the lower right corner bears the name "Kiyohiko Azuma".

Edit: removed a gif in case it's an epilepsy trigger

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

I'm confused. The one in red is the teacher, and the one in blue, the student, has only her head and forearms exposed and isn't particularly chesty or curvy.

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

I've seen a few clips of this show in YouTube. It looks hilarious. But some of the scenes portray girls in very short skirts or with quite protruding chests. It's definitely not as bad as a lot of animes. It's just that I'm in my mid 40s, and I teach older girls, I just really can't find any of it pleasant.

I want to stress that I'm not bothered by anyone who enjoys the show. It's just me.

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I for some reason assumed this comment chain was about Nichijou. Then Yotsuba&. And now finally I see it's Azumanga daioh. I'm not very bright today.

maybe try one of the two former if you haven't seen them, the humor is seemingly kinda similar (yotsuba& is related to azumanga daioh iirc, spin off or smth) and iirc they're less sexualized than that one.

I get the argument that always putting younger girl characters in skirts is just like, reflecting reality, that's a common uniform, so that shows up even in very nonsexual shows sometimes, but a legit reason I don't watch a lot of anime anymore is because of the way so many go out of their way to draw the fucking underage characters bending over in tiny skirts and such. Its fucking foul. They could portray a realistic skirt length and not be a fucking pervert about it, even if it maybe seems a little short to a foreign audience, but they mostly just don't. Not that american TV is amazing about that sort of thing but its not as pervasive.

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Yotsuba& is only a manga. Its relation to Azumanga Daioh is just that it shares an author, Kiyohiko Azuma. The two mangas might take place in the same universe but that's just fan theories. There's a few uncomfortable scenes in Yotsuba& with Fuuka, involving Jumbo, from what I've read so far (~1.5 volumes)

Nichijou doesn't have anything uncomfortable that I can remember.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Azumanga is NOT the show that comes to mind when I think of “sexualized characters” hahaha

[-] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

This scene isn't really a good example of that, Yukari-sensei is the teacher here. However some parts of the show are definitely weird that way, nowhere to the point of other shows fortunately.

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