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[-] 2812481591@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I've seen projects that count the confirmed KIA by name from social media commemorations,. and they arrive at like Russian 72k KIA, 68k Ukranian KIA. Russia does not have a 10:1 casualty rate.

Edit: I don't know why we shouldn't accept the named KIA projects as being an effective lower-bound estimate of those killed. if we accept around 70,000 Russians have died, and assume that there are significantly more russian non-KIA casualties than KIA, then not even the Russian MOD is claiming numbers that would be 10:1. Does the Slava Rossiya crew on Hexbear think there are over 2 million Ukranian casualties? in Febuary, Russia said 444,000 Ukranians killed and wounded.

[-] coolusername@lemmy.ml 27 points 5 months ago

They do. They have air superiority and really much more of everything including morale

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

We also know:

  1. Ukraine has been getting slowly pushed back
  2. Ukraine's counteroffensive failed

Abandoning a position because you can't hold it usually involves lots of deaths. Similarly, moving on a position but getting pushed back seems like it would aldo be pretty costly.

I'm skeptical of 10:1, but I'm also skeptical of 1:1.

[-] Voidance@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They have air superiority and are fighting an army that’s obsessed with launching hopeless offensives and been reduced to forcibly conscripting 50 years olds, I would totally believe a 10:1 ratio

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

Russia absolutely has a 10:1 kill ratio and you’d be stupid to not believe it.

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