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I trust Trump about as far as I can throw him, and at the end of the day it's really the Pentagon calling the shots here not the POTUS.

But dudes clearly speaking to a public sentiment here.

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[-] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 77 points 3 months ago

Trump is the nominal antiwar position

Trump isn't anti-war, or at least I don't trust him to be actually anti-war. He's anti-this-war, but his administration did plenty of hawkish shit towards Iran and Venezuela. I'm not even confident he'll actually do anything to deescalate in Ukraine, I think it's all bluster.

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 41 points 3 months ago

not to mention he ramped up drone strikes 400% more than obama

[-] P1d40n3@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

one of the few things I'm willing to give Biden credit for - he stopped the drone strikes

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago

same here. and I have never heard a liberal mention it

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago

Did he really, or did he just change who's using them?

[-] P1d40n3@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

Your counterpoint was valid when the Saudis were bombing Yemen, but ever since that wound down, there are legit less bombings.

Still not voting Biden, but I just believe in giving credit where it's due.

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

Even if there's fewer bombs, it just means that those military strategies are no longer viable for US interests. It's not a moral stance, but a geopolitical one.

[-] P1d40n3@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

I agree. No interest in defending Genocide Joe.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 months ago

Exactly, especially that the drones were proven to be vulnerable to anyone who have an actual military and is willing to oppose USA for real, like Russia, Iran or even Yemen (and unlike Pakistan or Iraq).

[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago

Wow. Credit where credit's due. I didn't know this.

Source

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

At this point basically every influental politician in US is just Holden Bloodfeast

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, he's anti this war because he thinks it's time to cash in and start the next war.

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