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Plastics makers tout "a world without waste." But what does that mean?
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How about a world without microplastic?
How about not repeating meaningless slogans and suggesting solutions that don't exist?
We should be targeting a world without micro plastics. The sweet little petrochemical companies really don't need you stepping in to defend them
Explain how you plan on realizing that instead of saying "we shoulda coulda"
For clothing we can target natural fibers like wool and alpaca fleece. These offer superior durability with many of the same moisture wicking properties as polyester. Some people won't be able to afford these nicer clothes on their income. We can address this by taxing the rich, providing more social safety nets, and raising the minimum wages. For single use plastics we can start asking if packages at the store really need cling wrap protecting the cardboard box. We can also question if those cardboard boxes really need glossy packaging. Another major source is single use plastics bottles and drink cups from fast food. We can deal with a lot of this by figuring out why so many people don't consider their drinking water safe, and then making their drinking water safe.
There. There's three things I was able to think of off the top of my head. But you wanna know something? It starts with saying "there's a problem, and we need to do something." So I say to you again. Why do the big petrochemical companies need little old you to step in and protect them? Do you really think there's just no other way forward than to destroy the world, or do you lack so much imagination that when someone says you should be trying to reduce or avoid something, you need them to go into exhaustive detail about what a future without that thing could look like?
None of what you said could be made at scale. You just spouted a few catchphrases that mean nothing and think you solved the world's problems.
You just hate alpacas you freak
I don't think I've solved the worlds problems. But apathy is what's killing us and if we don't even try to put in the work to find solutions we won't find them. I'm not trying to speak in catchphrases and I'm not even sure which parts of my speech I'm referring to. Regardless of how you feel about it I'm going to keep putting in the work to politically motivate people to awaken to that our modern conveniences don't need to be as disposable as they are, that neocolonialism is sapping the world of its resources to enrich the 1%, and that we can't expect better if we don't do anything at all. I would love to hear your ideas too. But the biggest thing is we can't do better if we don't even think about how to do better. It all starts with envisioning a better world and then working towards that
There is a difference between apathy and complaining about something without any feasible solution. Other than that, again, more catchphrases.
Yet all you've done is complain. Also crazily enough, many of the things he said above can be put to scale.
I think we would all love to see your grandiose ideas and plans to help better humanity, or is your only plan to dissuade everyone from doing anything, so that you don't feel guilty for doing fuck-all?
Nothing you, or anyone else, write here matters. Nobody here will be a driver for change. Nobody here will introduce any change to how the world works. Great job assuming people have main character syndrome like you and have "grandiose ideas and plans to better humanity". You aren't "doing something" by arguing on a niche forum and throwing one-liners. None of your "plans" will be enacted.
Nothing you do may matter, but you are far from the only representation of this website.
Not one person on this website will change anything. And that's a fact. It's actually funny how you think there is some sort of messiah here that will become president or whatever. Won't happen. A single company doing it won't bring about change either.
No single drop of water considers itself responsible for the flood.
Your defeatist attitude rises to troll levels. None of your piss and vinegar will fill the hole in your heart you are desperately trying to fill.
Does being radioactive in anonymous forums give you a sense of power? Kinda sad. I hope whatever is hurting you in life gives you some relief, you seem miserable.
When losing the debate, resort to ad hominems. Good job buddy!
If your rubric for a good comment is proposing solutions, I haven't seen anything from you but bitching that this person hasn't solved the world's problems.
I haven't thrown a one-sentence "we shouldda" out there, I don't need to "propose solutions". Also, such "proposals" mean jack, have no bearing on real life and are transient in nature - a week from now nobody will remember the post. This isn't the UN, this is a small forum with angrily idealistic people who ultimately won't be in a position to suggest anything or introduce any change in how the world works.
Whar leads you to believe we don't log out and go do gardening, talk to friends about what to do about all of this, call our senators and congressmen, canvas people to register to vote?
What leads you to believe your gardening will change anything? What leads you to believe calling a politician will bring about any change? Especially with saying things like "let's get rid of all the plastic in the world"? Ultimately nobody here has enough power behind them to actually influence anything, especially with such an unrealistic idea.
So your solution is petulant nothingness? Your goals for the planet are to let it burn? I'm not saying I have the answers, but you're in here telling us what we're doing isn't helpful, but we've asked you what you're doing, what ideas you have to bring to the table that we could start implementing, but all you ever offer is apathy. This is my last comment to you unless you want to start suggesting things. Its clear you don't agree with this communities core ethos which is "for things to change you have to do things"
Nope, I do things that matter and give visible and measurable impact. Again I am hit here with main character syndrome - there is no "table" to bring ideas to. I am not going to be "suggesting things". It'd be screaming into the void that is forgotten after a cute cat video pops up on youtube.
Like what?
Want me to dox myself? I won't really do that. Also I don't have to prove anything to anyone.
I’m just asking you to share your wisdom, oh wise one. What should us plebs be doing that we’re not?
I think their answer is "bitch and complain about everybody else".
This is a line I keep seeing from people who are just anti-action. "Trust me, I'm one of you, I'm a real activist, I'm on your side, and you're doing it all wrong."
It's just a really cheap way to claim credibility so you can tear down people who have anything to say. I wouldn't be surprised if it's straight out of a cointelpro handbook. Not saying everyone who talks like this is a personally an op, but I also wouldn't be surprised if coaching reactionaries to talk this way is also in their handbook. They can just send out an army of unpaid little shitheads to sow discord.
The petrochemical corporations won't fuck you for defending them