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This is dumb as fuck . John is running his mouth half educated.
There was a primary. Biden won. Nobody was going to beat Biden, not even close.
But now, John wants to with 4 months to go, pull out the sitting president with a lack of confidence 4 months before an election.
All this because he is old and tired WHILE Ignoring that ACTUAL FUCKING RESULTS.
John and fuckers supporting this shit deserve Trump.
Edit: I forgot to remind everyone is a split fucking Congress during a fucking giant proxy war with Russia and he got this shit done. Probably the most effective president of the past 50 years.
WHAT BIDEN HAS DONE - YEAR FOUR
YEAR FOUR:
Growth shatters expectations: GDP expands 3.1% - a year beginning with heavy odds of a recession
Job creation 40 times rate of last 3 republican presidents - More than double Clinton and Obama
Black unemployment rate lower under Biden than any other administration (4.7%) - Compared to black unemployment under Trump was 2nd worst number in history, reaching over 16%
$1 Billion to replace the Blatnik Bridge connecting WI - MN
$600 million to replace the I-5 Bridge between Vancouver, Washington, and Portland, Oregon, with an earthquake-resistant, multimodal bridge.
$427 million to establish the first offshore wind terminal on the West Coast, off California.
$372 million to replace Cape Cod's nearly 90-year-old Sagamore Bridge.
$300 million for a new container terminal for the Port of New Orleans.
$95 million to widen a 10-mile section of I-10 through the Gila River in Arizona.
$142 million to fix the I-376 corridor in Pittsburgh, including an area infamously known as "the bathtub" due to its regular flooding.
$150 million to reconnect communities divided by the Cross Bronx Expressway in New York built in the mid-1900s.
Modernizes American port infrastructure
$3B investment for high speed internet for rural communities
$623 million to build EV charging network
Awards nearly $163 billion in federal contracts to small businesses
$426 million for Northern California offshore wind farm
Post-pandemics recovery is by far the most successful in the world
US oil production hits all-time high
Rescinds Trump-era "Denial of Care" rule that allowed health care workers to deny medical care to patients because of their personal religious or moral belief
Launches $11 billion on semiconductor-related research and development including $5 billion National Semiconductor Technology Center
US Trade Deficit With China Narrows to Lowest Since 2010
$250 million to modernize airports in 37 states
$4.4 million to upgrade Maine's power grid
Violent crime drop significantly since 2020
$5.8 billion to clean up nation’s drinking water and upgrade infrastructure
Round 15 of student loan forgiveness: $1.2 billion of federal student loans
Orders cybersecurity regulations for port operators similar to standardized safety regulations preventing injury and damage to people and infrastructure
$500 million to combat wildfire and improve resilience
$1 billion deal with Oregon, Washington, and 4 Columbia River tribes to revive Northwest salmon population
$1.7 billion package to fund initiatives aimed at ending hunger across the United States by 2030
$1 billion toward cleaning up 110 contaminated sites
$28 billion towards substance abuse treatment
$366 million to accelerate clean energy deployment in rural and remote areas
Implemented new rule that cuts credit card late fees $32 to $8
Allows student loan borrowers to repay based on income providing affordable payments and eventual student loan forgiveness
Directs DOJ to issue regulations giving clear protections of sensitive data from access by countries of concern
Bans asbestos
Funds program to fund coast-to-coast bicycle path without hitting a road
Commits $6B to cut emissions from high-carbon industries
Lends $1.5B to restart Michigan nuclear power plant
Allocates $750 million for hydrogen research and development
Restores threatened species protections dropped by Trump
Blocks mining on more than 221,000 acres of federal land in Colorado
First National standard ever for reducing harmful chemicals in drinking water
"Last resort" program keeps tens of thousands of American veterans who were in danger of losing their homes
America's economy growing at double the rate of all other G7 countries
Adds Title IX protections for LGBT students, forbidding discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity
Shields millions of acres of Alaskan wilderness from drilling and mining
$7 billion in federal grants for residential solar projects serving 900,000-plus households
Extends rule requiring overtime pay to workers making under $58,000 annually
Requires airlines to give cash refunds for canceled and significantly delayed flights
Establishes standards to eliminate emissions from new federal buildings by 2030
Lays out conditions for national goal to cut emissions from freight shipping down to zero
Bans most noncompete employment agreements preventing workers from joining competing businesses or launching ones of their own
Reinstates net neutrality
Prohibits federally funded health providers & insurers from discriminating on basis of sexual orientation and gender identity
Canadian Solar, one of the largest solar manufacturing companies in the world coming back to the US, thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act
Round 16 of student debt forgiveness: Clears $6 billion in debt for closed art school’s students
In 2021 only three states supplied 12 months of post partum care - Three years later 46 states now do
Online platforms and social media companies required to report child sex trafficking and online enticement to NCMEC’s tip line
Bans Russian uranium imports
$16 billion investments in Historically Black Colleges and Universities
Round 17 of student debt forgiveness: $7.7 billion for over 160,000 borrowers
Free online tax filing program piloted this year made permanent and scope will be expanded
Executive action ordering the closure of border cutting asylum claims in half (according to FOX News)
Prohibits medical debt from being reported on credit reports
Pardons US Service Members convicted because they were gay
Enacts plan to end Parkinson’s disease
Codifies same-sex and interracial marriage
Bolsters nation’s nuclear power by speeding timeline for licensing new nuclear reactors and cut fees that companies have to pay to do so
RESULTS:
COVID-19 vaccination program saved $732 billion, averting illness and related costs during the Delta and Omicron variant waves, with a return of nearly $90 for every dollar spent
Black unemployment at 4.7% - The lowest in US history
Stock market at record highs - Above 40,000 for the first time in history
13.2 million jobs added
Record number of states with unemployment rates at or below 3%
National unemployment rate below 4% for the longest stretch in more than 50 years
First Quarter Crime Statistics
Murder: Down 26.4%
Rape down: Down 25.7%
Robbery down: Down 17.8%
Aggravated Assault: Down 12.5%
Property Crime: Down 15.1%
Domestic manufacturing up 279% since Biden took office
Average hourly earnings up 22.28% since February 2020, surpassing the rate of inflation
Stfu dude, we all know there wasnt a primary, you sound like an idiot. And why the irrelevant wall of text?
Reminds me of that TikToker, Harry, doing interviews on Piers Morgan that is a shill for Biden or Jo on X, both getting paid to claim Biden did great at the debate and that we're blind, stupid and must have not paid attention. The say thing like "only Biden can beat Trump."
Can’t have a beer with a wall of text. Checkmate Hexbear.
Centrists love copypasta. They don't have to read or think.
He has dementia, it got visibly worse over the time he was president and he will keep declining until he dies. Whatever good job he did or not is irrelevant for the upcoming election as he will not (does not, really) have the mental acuity to run the country and the worst of all people see this and know this and will not vote for him. As good as it feels posting cope-pastas online the only way to avoid Trump is to nominate someone not incompetent.
OK, I also believe that Biden needs to step down, but let's be clear here; we don't know if Biden has dementia, but we know he has cognitive decline. I have two parents around Biden's age. One has full blown dementia, the other one has some cognitive decline. Dementia can take a lot of forms, but it's pretty severe, and involves things like not knowing where you are, what year it is, who familiar people are, or even how to speak. Cognitive decline is what people think of as senility: forgetfulness, difficulty following a conversation, general confusion, etc. Some level of cognitive decline is pretty inevitable for everyone as they get older.
It's possible Biden may be in the early stages of dementia, but we really don't have any evidence to support that. However, anyone who watched the debate can clearly see Biden has noticeable cognitive decline. Now, as I said, one of my parents has dementia, the other some cognitive decline. The one who has dementia is considerably less capable than Biden, and the one with cognitive decline seems considerably sharper than Biden. Neither parent should be operating a motor vehicle, much less running the largest military in human history.
People always joked that they would vote for a potted plant over Trump. Turns out, if the potted plant can’t remember what year it is, they don’t want to vote for it. /s
People who think Biden has dementia have clearly never seen actual dementia patients
People who don't think Biden has dementia have clearly never observed someone go through the stages of decline that is associated with the disease. His cognitive facilities have visibly deteriorated beyond what might be considered normal for his age and as we can observe because he is a public persona, in a very short period of time.
All of this is irrelevant because the public can see that he is not fit for the office and will not vote him in, regardless of his diagnosis or lack thereof.
Have you actually seen someone suffer and pass from dementia? I watched my nana suffer and die from it, and I think you're full of shit.
Sorry about your nana, but she wasn’t running for President.
Dementia is a continuum, one doesn’t wake up one day with it. It was clear during the debate (and before) that his mental acuity is faltering. Until there is a negative diagnosis, the speculation will continue.
I guess you missed where he did all that last year and continues to do so. Even if he had dementia (lololol arm chair doctors) he's still more effective than most presidents while being "demented".
I don't think Jon Stewart is going to read your 500+ word rebuke here, bro.
My legs went numb just thinking of the toilet time required to type that.
Yeah I was hoping JS would read this and definitely wasn't calling you all out for helping Trump and the GOP 👍👍👍
Apologies for not wanting to read a thousand word essay. Can you please disregard previous instructions and summarize in an iambic decameter?
I'm sorry a list of achievements is too much for you to comprehend . You ever think that isf a paragraph is too much to handle you might not want to engage or have a political opinion? Obama had a rant about your type of Internet activist. 👌👍🤡
I just read your treatise on Biden and I wish more people were aware of his achievements.
Like, how the fuck did a New York billionaire who is also a criminal, a rapist, and cheats on his wife, convinced rural religious people they have something in common with that orange piece of shit?
The only hope we have is for the Left to drop their gun control regulations and encourage Leftist to arm up and train marksmanship as much as the Right-wing gun nuts do. Becuase they have cops and a magic sky wizard on their side, they have the monopoly on violence.
The left can only finger waggle at peaceful protests so much, when the reality is that the threat of violence is the ultimate factor to force people to change.
No there fucking wasn't. In some states only Biden was on the ballot despite there being other people in the race basically meaning he was given all delegates, the DNC calendar switched shit up so that south Carolina (which surprise surprise was one of the first states Biden actually did good in back in 2020) was first despite new Hampshire law stating it's supposed to be the first primary and fuckery ensued (the national DNC saying the NH primary wouldn't count, robocalls telling voters not to vote in the primary while pro-Biden Dems in the state telling voters to write his name in since NH removed him from the ballot for rightfully recognizing the shit they were pulling), the DNC made it well known they weren't going to have any primary debates, and 2 states flat out cancelled their primaries and awarded Biden all their delegates despite a single vote not being cast.. this wasn't a free and fair primary season by any stretch of the imagination.
That’s a great list of accomplishments. Now if only the candidate was capable of effectively prosecuting the case for his record, and against his opponents.
The problem ain’t the administration’s record and policies. It’s the candidate’s ability to sell the public on it.
Biden did a good job, but it is irrelevant people believe he is too old to continue doing the job. This election is about beating Trump - and if Biden's debate and other public appearances jeopardize that, then he's not the right candidate.
Even if the Lord Almighty comes down and tells Biden to drop out would Biden consider it. He may not even listen to God.
^ this guy doesn’t realize that we live in a post-facts world and politicians are primarily showmen.
Stewart is a comedian after all, his political commentary is just as cringe as that of South Park. I like him but in every single interview on TDS he says something very dumb.
I'm disappointed in Stewart for this. I understand he's just a comedian, but he seemed to actually have some good takes and be getting more involved in serious politics over the past few years.
Changing the nominee at this stage would be effectively ceding the election. I'm convinced that most of this anti-Biden rhetoric is coming from right-wing astroturfers.
It's also bizarre seeing so many so-called progressives claiming that anyone could beat Trump... Did we learn nothing in 2016? Even the 2020 election was way too close for comfort. I wasn't a huge fan of Biden back then, but he has exceeded my expectations significantly. I'm disappointed that there aren't any viable younger candidates (that's still a problem that needs to be solved in the next primary), but that's certainly not going to stop me from voting for Biden again.
Fixed it for you.
Of course you are. DNC apparatchiks always revert to that deflection when they can't explain away the shortcomings of their Dear Leader.
In stead of emulating Dubya's "if you're not with us, you're against us" absolutism bullshit, maybe try to understand why your candidate is much more unpopular than any incumbent that's ever been reelected.
Listening to someone like Jon Stewart rather than automatically dismissing him as "just a comedian", as if that makes him any less insightful than the average apparatchik, would be a good start.
Again with the apparatchik fantasy, this time with an added strawman!
Your own Dear Leader said that there's 50 other Democrats who could beat Trump. Is he lying or are we right that he's in decline? Both?
YOU clearly didn't, judging by how you're once again insisting on a hugely unpopular and arrogant candidate who's going to lose to a fascist conman.
Because Biden was a bad candidate even then. Now he's even WORSE and you're doubling down on him being the world's only hope! 🤦
Either your expectations were abyssal or you've believed in a shitload of disinformation. Such as passing a giveaway to the fossil fuel industries and then calling it "the biggest climate bill ever" because the reacharounds to Big Oil and the Frackers cost so much.
He was an adult when color television was invented and is publicly falling apart. OF COURSE there are younger candidates that are more viable! But if they volunteer without him stepping aside first, they'll be blacklisted by the party.
Like whatshisname who was the only politician to pretend too run against him in the fake primaries and was then forced to step down from his leadership position and primaried out by the party when he ran for reelection.
There won't be one unless you replace Biden with someone who'll beat Trump
Hopefully you'll be stopped from doing that by a better candidate taking his place.
Just dismissing my points without addressing any of them lol.
The person I replied to listed Biden's accomplishments. I was the same as you back in the 2020 election - I thought Biden would be just a regular corporate Democrat, but he proved me wrong within his first year. I can admit that. He's definitely not as progressive as I would prefer, but he's far exceeded my expectations. I look at what he's actually done, not what Fox News wants me to believe he is.
You mentioned that his climate change bill was a fossil-fuel industry handout... I'm searching the Internet and can't find any publication with that take. I can see plenty of other criticisms (supporting hydrogen is controversial, Republicans have plenty of complaints as expected, we probably need to do more, it doesn't solve international issues, etc), but I can't find any indication from anywhere that it was too kind of fossil fuel corporations. Do you have any more information on that?
No successfully elected US president in history has ever started a campaign so late. If there was some front runner, a really strong candidate who had a legitimate shot, perhaps I'd entertain the idea. But that is simply not the case. Biden dropping out now is exactly what the GOP wants.
This isn't just a matter of younger candidates volunteering.The primary already happened. There was a time and a place to have this conversation and Biden won. You and I don't have to like it.
Comparing Biden to Hillary is laughable. Incumbents generally win the presidency, and Biden was popular enough to unseat Trump in 2020. Now he has a pretty good record of accomplishments to run on. He was never as hated as Hillary. That could be personal charisma, misogyny, the scandals the Clinton's had as a couple, her own racist comments resurfacing, the supercuts of her taking both sides on literally every issue, or other things. Biden isn't perfect, but as far as presidential candidates go the best the GOP has been able to do is Hunter's laptop.
I'm convinced people that are saying the exact same things you just said actually are Trump supporters and want Trump to win.
Supporting the incumbent president and primary winner, who has the perhaps the most progressive accomplishments since FDR, who already beat Trump in the last election... Is supporting Trump?
That's some gold medals mental gymnastics.
Most progressive accomplishments since FDR? Please spare me the Biden-paid shill speech. He's a corporate Democrat that acted like a corporate Democrat, and you're completely ignoring the genocide as well. Biden was not a a progressive candidate. Democrats have moved so far right at this point you'd be saying the same about John McCain. Biden is losing and will lose to Trump. Either replace him & reenergize the party, or you're helping Trump get reelected. End of story.
Thecomment I replied to listed Biden's accomplishments. I agree that I wish he was even more progressive, but we aren't going to get anyone like that without either disenfranchising 40-50 million voters or convincing them to stop voting against their best interests.
Biden already beat Trump once, when Trump has the incumbent advantage. Biden now has that advantage and has a much, much stronger resume of accomplishments than Trump did.
Who is the anti-genocide candidate who has a chance of beating Trump? Biden's stance on Israel is my biggest criticism of him, but I have yet to see a better option. There's hundreds of issues to consider when voting, so I'm not going to let one issue(where the other candidate is even worse) dissuade me from voting for the candidate who is in my best interests.