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I'm disappointed in Stewart for this. I understand he's just a comedian, but he seemed to actually have some good takes and be getting more involved in serious politics over the past few years.
Changing the nominee at this stage would be effectively ceding the election. I'm convinced that most of this anti-Biden rhetoric is coming from right-wing astroturfers.
It's also bizarre seeing so many so-called progressives claiming that anyone could beat Trump... Did we learn nothing in 2016? Even the 2020 election was way too close for comfort. I wasn't a huge fan of Biden back then, but he has exceeded my expectations significantly. I'm disappointed that there aren't any viable younger candidates (that's still a problem that needs to be solved in the next primary), but that's certainly not going to stop me from voting for Biden again.
Fixed it for you.
Of course you are. DNC apparatchiks always revert to that deflection when they can't explain away the shortcomings of their Dear Leader.
In stead of emulating Dubya's "if you're not with us, you're against us" absolutism bullshit, maybe try to understand why your candidate is much more unpopular than any incumbent that's ever been reelected.
Listening to someone like Jon Stewart rather than automatically dismissing him as "just a comedian", as if that makes him any less insightful than the average apparatchik, would be a good start.
Again with the apparatchik fantasy, this time with an added strawman!
Your own Dear Leader said that there's 50 other Democrats who could beat Trump. Is he lying or are we right that he's in decline? Both?
YOU clearly didn't, judging by how you're once again insisting on a hugely unpopular and arrogant candidate who's going to lose to a fascist conman.
Because Biden was a bad candidate even then. Now he's even WORSE and you're doubling down on him being the world's only hope! 🤦
Either your expectations were abyssal or you've believed in a shitload of disinformation. Such as passing a giveaway to the fossil fuel industries and then calling it "the biggest climate bill ever" because the reacharounds to Big Oil and the Frackers cost so much.
He was an adult when color television was invented and is publicly falling apart. OF COURSE there are younger candidates that are more viable! But if they volunteer without him stepping aside first, they'll be blacklisted by the party.
Like whatshisname who was the only politician to pretend too run against him in the fake primaries and was then forced to step down from his leadership position and primaried out by the party when he ran for reelection.
There won't be one unless you replace Biden with someone who'll beat Trump
Hopefully you'll be stopped from doing that by a better candidate taking his place.
Just dismissing my points without addressing any of them lol.
The person I replied to listed Biden's accomplishments. I was the same as you back in the 2020 election - I thought Biden would be just a regular corporate Democrat, but he proved me wrong within his first year. I can admit that. He's definitely not as progressive as I would prefer, but he's far exceeded my expectations. I look at what he's actually done, not what Fox News wants me to believe he is.
You mentioned that his climate change bill was a fossil-fuel industry handout... I'm searching the Internet and can't find any publication with that take. I can see plenty of other criticisms (supporting hydrogen is controversial, Republicans have plenty of complaints as expected, we probably need to do more, it doesn't solve international issues, etc), but I can't find any indication from anywhere that it was too kind of fossil fuel corporations. Do you have any more information on that?
No successfully elected US president in history has ever started a campaign so late. If there was some front runner, a really strong candidate who had a legitimate shot, perhaps I'd entertain the idea. But that is simply not the case. Biden dropping out now is exactly what the GOP wants.
This isn't just a matter of younger candidates volunteering.The primary already happened. There was a time and a place to have this conversation and Biden won. You and I don't have to like it.
Comparing Biden to Hillary is laughable. Incumbents generally win the presidency, and Biden was popular enough to unseat Trump in 2020. Now he has a pretty good record of accomplishments to run on. He was never as hated as Hillary. That could be personal charisma, misogyny, the scandals the Clinton's had as a couple, her own racist comments resurfacing, the supercuts of her taking both sides on literally every issue, or other things. Biden isn't perfect, but as far as presidential candidates go the best the GOP has been able to do is Hunter's laptop.
I'm convinced people that are saying the exact same things you just said actually are Trump supporters and want Trump to win.
Supporting the incumbent president and primary winner, who has the perhaps the most progressive accomplishments since FDR, who already beat Trump in the last election... Is supporting Trump?
That's some gold medals mental gymnastics.
Most progressive accomplishments since FDR? Please spare me the Biden-paid shill speech. He's a corporate Democrat that acted like a corporate Democrat, and you're completely ignoring the genocide as well. Biden was not a a progressive candidate. Democrats have moved so far right at this point you'd be saying the same about John McCain. Biden is losing and will lose to Trump. Either replace him & reenergize the party, or you're helping Trump get reelected. End of story.
Thecomment I replied to listed Biden's accomplishments. I agree that I wish he was even more progressive, but we aren't going to get anyone like that without either disenfranchising 40-50 million voters or convincing them to stop voting against their best interests.
Biden already beat Trump once, when Trump has the incumbent advantage. Biden now has that advantage and has a much, much stronger resume of accomplishments than Trump did.
Who is the anti-genocide candidate who has a chance of beating Trump? Biden's stance on Israel is my biggest criticism of him, but I have yet to see a better option. There's hundreds of issues to consider when voting, so I'm not going to let one issue(where the other candidate is even worse) dissuade me from voting for the candidate who is in my best interests.