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"China stole the f-35 plans!" So? Who care? Like literally who cares? What are they going to do, build air defense systems to counter america's strategic baby murdering capabilities?

"China is going to invade taiwan!" Again, whocares? Why do you give a single fuck about taiwan? And why do you think china is going to invade when y'all constantly talk about how china doesn't have the capacity to invade and taiwan would just blow the chip fabs anyway? And china has it's own mature chip technology? So why do you think they're poised to invade when you ourright say they cannot do that and have no incentive to, they're not producing military gear capable of invasion, and their publicly stated goal of peaceful integration has been consistent with their praxis for, what, fifty goddamn years?

"China is spying on us through tiktok!" One, no they're not, and no credible source believes they are, or even that they could. Two, senior us officials have openly stated they are trying to seize control of tiktok because it exposes kids to information outside of us control. Three, who care? What the fuck is china going to do to harm you? Why are you worried about china enough to talk about it constantly, but you're totally dismissive of five eyes very real and publicly proven surveillance of your lives, which five eyes does use to cause you real material harm?

How can people this fucking smart be this fucking stupid when the state department sprinkles a little racism on their propaganda? Oh, and also, i was told today that wikipedia says china is doing uighurcide and they don't need to read the un report because they skimmed it and then they start moving the goalposts from genocide to human rights vioations and bitching about prison labor which, again, you fuckers never talk about the us prison slave system that actually effects your life and that you could actually do something about? Fuck's sake this shit is so goddamn frustrating. These people are smart as hell but as soon as they see an epicathic fold they turn in to the fucking john birch society.

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[-] KhanCipher@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago

Okay, at the risk of being that person, the F-35 loses in a stand up fight because it's not designed in a doctrine sense to get in stand up fights. On paper it's designed to leverage its status as a stealth fighter to avoid those stand up fights by either avoiding them entirely or get one of the most important things in a A2A engagement, getting the first missile salvo off.

So regardless on how actually good the F-35 is, having it's blueprints to have the knowledge on how to counteract it is still incredibly useful in case it happens to be very good for what it's designed to do.

[-] coolusername@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 months ago

f35 is supposed to be stealthy but China can already track it. it's just a useless piece of shit designed to funnel money from the federal reserve (which has infinite money) to the military-industrial complex

[-] KhanCipher@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

f35 is supposed to be stealthy but China can already track it.

You do know that's pretty normal for stealth fighters, right?

Like to explain this as far as I know the F-117 is to date still the fighter that is the most stealthy, and it still technically shows up on radars, just that it's radar signature is a lot smaller than a normal jet. Which how stealth fighters work is that they minimize the radar signature that is received back by radar systems, either by shape (which is why the F-117 looks the way it does), and or special coating on the panels itself which absorb the radar signals being sent out by the radar installation on the ground or from other aircraft. The point of it to essentially trick the other guy into thinking that what they're reading on radar isn't a fighter jet. And this doesn't get into the several ways you can essentially trick the opposing radar into not seeing you regardless of the plane doing it is a stealth fighter or not.

There's plenty to dunk on with the F-35 (like all the cost overruns, the fact that it seems to only be able to fly in good weather), but saying that anyone can track is incredibly misleading.

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