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People being subjected to genocide is not garbage, what in the fuck
Palestinians being subjected to Genocide is not a subject that many Americans care about. The middle east has constantly been a hell-hole of people getting unjustly murdered. We're numb to it now.
And do you think that's going to get BETTER, or WORSE when Trump wins, because of your excessive whinging?
Bidens not losing because Democrats are infighting, the GOP are literally shooting at each other and just put up a vp that made his initial career off bad mouthing trump and his base, no one gives a shit about party cohesion. Biden is losing because he's a bad unpopular candidate, he has the worst approval rating since Carter and is the oldest candidate ever to run. Stop blaming the mostly impotent left and start blaming the establishment that got us into this mess in the first place.
Seriously this. Whenever we get close to elections, people who care about any issues at all are blamed for having any criticism at all of the dems while the shortcomings of the party and the huge, avoidable, deeply embarrassing mistakes that powerful people within it make go completely uncommented on.
I think you can make this same point without trivializing peoples suffering. You are talking about human beings. It is not “excessive whinging” for people to be less numb than you are, even if you disagree with them about whether or not that makes Biden a bad candidate. Like those are real people.
I'm a misanthrope, I don't give two shits about humanity. Half of them would see you dead without batting an eye. Only thing that makes us special is that we were the most violent ape. We're STILL violent apes.
That is.. irrelevant? Misanthropy doesn’t get you out of the basic obligation to be decent to other people, including people who live in faraway places. Your rhetoric here is gross and racist. I commented because I thought you might not realize that. My bad.
You may want to learn what racism is buddy. Because this ain't it. Nationalism maybe? Sure. But going around calling everything racist because it involves people not of euro-ethnic origin, isn't how racism works. I don't think Palestinian people are inferior to anyone in any way - but I get it. You gotta play that victim card. It's probably won you a lot of arguments at the playground.
So, my comment about misanthropy was more to let you know that you were using an appeal to emotion in your argument. An appeal to emotion isn't a valid argument for something. Especially when the person you're arguing with, doesn't give much of a damn for people's emotions.
This is basic Trolly Car problem level shit my man. Don't pull the switch, someone dies that you know. Pull the switch, and 5 people die that you don't know.
I choose to let the person die that I know, to save the 5 others. What you're doing, is letting the 5 die because the person you know is close to you. That's all. Despite my misanthropy, the benefit for humanity lay more with making sure we don't lose America to a much larger problem.
I'd gladly turn a blind eye to Palestine temporarily to make sure we don't lose Palestine, Ukraine, Taiwan, and America on the larger stage. And you better bet that I'll be putting up a stink for the Palestinian people just as soon as Trump is NOT elected.
You lack foresight.
You have not chosen to do anything as grand as "pulling the switch". Your and the democratic party's lack of strategic or tactical competence is exactly why we are in this mess in the first place.
I really wanted to make an "average Biden stan" joke, but goddamn, this is the most pathetic thing I have seen Biden bootlicker say so far.
Just lead with this and people will better judge the opinions that follow.