105
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

FPTP means that if candidate A gets a majority of the votes in a district they get to represent the district as a whole, meaning that effectively all votes for candidante B, C, D, and E are thrown away.

This means that there is a point to gerrymander districts so they will allways have the majority.

If I understand the voting system in the US correctly, votes are counted in the disctricts, districts are then counted further up.

In a fair voting system, districts does not matter for anything but statistics.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Your understanding of fptp and the US district voting system is correct, but I'm still not sure how any different voting system solves dividing districts into specific voting blocks.

I guess it would make a small but significant difference over time, but as long as gerrymandering is legal within the US framework, it's still very easy to manipulate the results by district, ranked choice voting or not.

It's s kind of like the structural problem of the electoral college. You can change the rules within the electoral college, but as long as you have those 200 people standing between the popular vote and the presidency, Donald Trump can get elected despite people not wanting him to be president.

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

Without FPTP, you would simply count the votes, and send the data to the election agency who will compile the final result.

There is no selecting a winner for each district and sending that on, mening there is no point to gerrymandering as it would not affect the result.

The electoral collage should also be scrapped, there is zero point to it.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Oh, for sure.

Any voting system within the current US structure won't be affected that much by switching voting formats, but illegalizing gerrymandering will make a huge difference in their current structure.

For ranked-choice voting to have a big impact, the US would have to change its whole voting system first.

Which I agree, they should.

[-] Vittelius@feddit.org 1 points 4 months ago

That sort of depends on the type of electoral system. There are a couple of systems that are not fptp but do produce a winner for each district such as "open list" and "mixed member".

Gerrymandering doesn't do as much harm in those systems as it does in FPTP but can still be an issue

this post was submitted on 21 Jul 2024
105 points (91.3% liked)

Ask Lemmy

27036 readers
713 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions

Please don't post about US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS