88
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2024
88 points (96.8% liked)
news
23510 readers
588 users here now
Welcome to c/news! Please read the Hexbear Code of Conduct and remember... we're all comrades here.
Rules:
-- PLEASE KEEP POST TITLES INFORMATIVE --
-- Overly editorialized titles, particularly if they link to opinion pieces, may get your post removed. --
-- All posts must include a link to their source. Screenshots are fine IF you include the link in the post body. --
-- If you are citing a twitter post as news please include not just the twitter.com in your links but also nitter.net (or another Nitter instance). There is also a Firefox extension that can redirect Twitter links to a Nitter instance: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/libredirect/ or archive them as you would any other reactionary source using e.g. https://archive.today . Twitter screenshots still need to be sourced or they will be removed --
-- Mass tagging comm moderators across multiple posts like a broken markov chain bot will result in a comm ban--
-- Repeated consecutive posting of reactionary sources, fake news, misleading / outdated news, false alarms over ghoul deaths, and/or shitposts will result in a comm ban.--
-- Neglecting to use content warnings or NSFW when dealing with disturbing content will be removed until in compliance. Users who are consecutively reported due to failing to use content warnings or NSFW tags when commenting on or posting disturbing content will result in the user being banned. --
-- Using April 1st as an excuse to post fake headlines, like the resurrection of Kissinger while he is still fortunately dead, will result in the poster being thrown in the gamer gulag and be sentenced to play and beat trashy mobile games like 'Raid: Shadow Legends' in order to be rehabilitated back into general society. --
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
The Soviets ended serfdom in a rather effective and convincing manner though
Not sure what you mean. Serfdom was abolished in 1860s. Are you referring to the subjugation to landlords and capitalists after that as 'serfdom'?
Read Lenin, he explains about remnants of serfdom going well into early XX century. Abolishment in 1860s was only formal and very shallow.
didnt some parts of russia keep basically buying/selling their serfs well after the legal abolishment?
Yeah in some parts landowners power were so much it basically happened, just not as openly as before, mostly together with land because that so called "enfranchisement of peasants" in Russia for most peasants kept them tied, just by debt and not law. Of course it did had one huge difference in that they could legally leave their land now, but they would have to leave everything - and still millions did it, though mostly from hunger and despair. As Lenin mentioned, one of the chief reasons for even abolishing serfdom was that capitalists demanded workforce which couldn't be satisfied by petrified feudal society.
Firstly, can you point to a particular work?
Secondly, that will have to wait, as I have thousands of pages of other stuff to deal with first.
Thirdly, I might have an idea what is being talked about, as, in particular, a lot of serfs did get forced to work for their prior landlords in effectively the same capacity. However, I am not sure if that is what the person I was replying to meant.
Basically in most about peasants and agriculture. Most notable of which is "The Development of Capitalism in Russia", also a lot of others in few first books of collected works.
Keyword is "odrobki" although i have no idea how that would be in English version since i read it in Polish (work-offs maybe?)
Close enough.