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Cool, so anyone who eats meat should be totally ok with eating whales. Thanks for clarifying that, we'll stop trying to get people to stop eating whales now thanks to your advice.
The options are either that or not eating meat while continuing to try to stop people from eating whales. I support you in whichever you pick.
This is called a "false choice," or "false dilemma"
Who are you to prevent cockroaches from sharing your kitchen? They're part of this earth too. Why are you complicit in cockroach genocide?
Easy: I don't give two shits about cockroaches.
If you think cockroaches and chickens are the same, go right ahead. You don't see me factory farming cockroaches though.
So you are totally OK with choosing to kill one life form because you see a distinct difference between it and another life form. But you are totally not OK with other people making the EXACT SAME value judgement for themselves. Cool.
That's the point you are missing. You see a difference between a chicken and a cockroach, so therefore it is OK to kill the cockroach but not the chicken. You don't see a difference between a chicken and a whale and therefore don't see any difference in eating one versus the other. That's fine for you to make that choice. You then think it's bad when other people make the same type of choice. I have spent a lot of time around chickens and a lot more than most people around whales, and I see as much difference between maybe the dumbest animal to live and whales (who have languages, culture, names for each other, hold funerals for each other and go in mourning) as I do between a cockroach and a chicken. There's also the whole being threatened or endangered thing.
I really do not understand your "people can be as cruel to animals as they want as long as they aren't hypocrites" position.
I'd rather they weren't, but if it's so integral to their sense of self that they are, at least admit it and stop looking down on people for not being the same kind of cruel as you.
From my observation, the only person looking down on people is you. You're also getting very close to violating our civility rule.
And no one said anything about their sense of self.