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[-] banner80@fedia.io 30 points 2 months ago

Trump is actually second-gen on his mother's side

Trump's mother was born in Scotland. She was a Scottish immigrant and her son is first-generation Scottish-American on her side.

[-] sawdustprophet@midwest.social 28 points 2 months ago

She was a Scottish immigrant and her son is first-generation Scottish-American on her side.

I think the person above you is using the US Census Bureau definition of generations, which is that the first gen is the immigrant themselves, second gen their children. That's how I've always understood it.

[-] banner80@fedia.io 10 points 2 months ago

Makes sense. Trump's mother was naturalized as an American citizen in 1942, and D. Trump was born in 1946, and by then his mother already called herself American. That would make her first-gen naturalized American in the eyes of the census, and D. Trump second gen given that he was born to a naturalized immigrant.

Technicalities aside, Donald Trump was born in America to a person that just a few years earlier called herself Scottish. He should certainly know about the prevalence of immigration in America, between his own Scottish and German background, and marrying immigrants himself.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that's the only definition I ever knew.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Weirdly there are two. Both are correct. Regional difference.

For the non-US context, one might as well add "born in the country" after the "first generation".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigrant_generations

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

I am from a non-US context, the first generation is the first that came to the country here.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Well yeah, I didn't mean "all non-US context of immigrants", but the article especially mentions the US definition being so.

But that doesn't mean others can't also utilise that definition.

Honestly, I'm not sure who exactly does use the other one, but I know it's used enough to be acceptable in certain contexts somewhere

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